TAIMAR rear brake upgrade?
TAIMAR rear brake upgrade?
Author
Discussion

hallsie

Original Poster:

2,185 posts

242 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
quotequote all
Hi all

Is there another standard rear brake set up or conversion that people have done to their Taimars?

Thanks

Stu

GadgeS3C

4,684 posts

186 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
quotequote all
David Gerald do a disc conversion. I'm sure Adrian Venn would also be able to advise.

Dare I ask - why?

hallsie

Original Poster:

2,185 posts

242 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
quotequote all
GadgeS3C said:
David Gerald do a disc conversion. I'm sure Adrian Venn would also be able to advise.

Dare I ask - why?
It worries me looking at drums on the rear!

Im also having the chassis restored and its obviously the best time to consider doing the upgrades if needed!
Also into the mix is the possibility of not getting the V6 engine running again, and if that happens I need to look into what possible engines could replace the 3.0 V6, and so, in a huge roundabout way, I will need to upgrade the brakes...!
Currently on the list is
2.0 zetec blacktop
Honda type R

I await the flaming from the purists!

Stu

GadgeS3C

4,684 posts

186 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
quotequote all
If you're going that route I'd be more worried about the standard discs at the front wink




TVR_owner

3,349 posts

213 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
quotequote all
hallsie said:
It worries me looking at drums on the rear!

Im also having the chassis restored and its obviously the best time to consider doing the upgrades if needed!
Also into the mix is the possibility of not getting the V6 engine running again, and if that happens I need to look into what possible engines could replace the 3.0 V6, and so, in a huge roundabout way, I will need to upgrade the brakes...!
Currently on the list is
2.0 zetec blacktop
Honda type R

I await the flaming from the purists!

Stu
Stu,
The fronts are the limiting braking factor. Alfins at the rear with trick shoes from Cambridge Motor Sport certainly provide adequate stopping power for most fast road and track day use when combined with uprated fronts.

I've run my racer for 5 years on drums and only now am I looking at rear discs in a bid to improve overall braking.

A purist...

sarbec

514 posts

210 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
quotequote all
I got a kit from Adrian Venn it fitted great no issues

sarbec

514 posts

210 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
quotequote all
TVR_owner said:
Stu,
The fronts are the limiting braking factor. Alfins at the rear with trick shoes from Cambridge Motor Sport certainly provide adequate stopping power for most fast road and track day use when combined with uprated fronts.

I've run my racer for 5 years on drums and only now am I looking at rear discs in a bid to improve overall braking.

A purist...
John is your car rebuilt yet ?
Dont forget the pics you promised of the beutiful 3000m of yours

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

213 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
quotequote all
sarbec said:
John is your car rebuilt yet ?
Dont forget the pics you promised of the beutiful 3000m of yours
Ivor,

It's no where near LOL..

The man thats doing the work has active race cars that take priority, but after this weekend we should see a bit more progress.

Summary...Its in bits.

Some little bits are coming back from plating (including wishbones and drive shafts), diff carrier being reworked to reduce weight, new mag diff being assembled with correct ramp angles etc, chassis tubes being replaced (been drilled for that many cages over the years some sections look like the mice have been at them...) so nothing to look at just yet smile

hallsie

Original Poster:

2,185 posts

242 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
quotequote all
TVR_owner said:
hallsie said:
It worries me looking at drums on the rear!

Im also having the chassis restored and its obviously the best time to consider doing the upgrades if needed!
Also into the mix is the possibility of not getting the V6 engine running again, and if that happens I need to look into what possible engines could replace the 3.0 V6, and so, in a huge roundabout way, I will need to upgrade the brakes...!
Currently on the list is
2.0 zetec blacktop
Honda type R

I await the flaming from the purists!

Stu
Stu,
The fronts are the limiting braking factor. Alfins at the rear with trick shoes from Cambridge Motor Sport certainly provide adequate stopping power for most fast road and track day use when combined with uprated fronts.

I've run my racer for 5 years on drums and only now am I looking at rear discs in a bid to improve overall braking.

A purist...
Now thats the kind of information Im after!!

Itll be easier to leave the rears as they are, and as youve been racing with the drums on the rear then thats all I need to know for reassurance.

Ill upgrade the fronts for sure, but I want to see how in need of fettling they are after 16 years standing.

Regarding the 'purist' comment/jibe, I would much rather keep the originality in the car, especially as it hasnt been played with to date.
Ive got 2 wedge FHC 2+2s, one of which I have returned to original interior and played with the V6 engine to return better power and unleaded status with stage 2 heads, and the other V8 will have a chassis once the Taimar is finished, again back to original status.

But I must be realsitic, if the V6 essex engine is too far gone and as I suspect, in need of an unleaded conversion, then perhaps the engine change will be the better and more driveable option.

Time will tell, and thanks for the replies, keep them coming

Stu

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

213 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
quotequote all
Stu,
TVRs running in HSCC 70s road sports run with standard calipers, discs and drums. They can only play with linings/pads, fluids and bias valves. There cars are limited to min 970 kg so not light for a racer.

Some of those cars are pushing 240+ BHP. They seem to cope smile


hallsie

Original Poster:

2,185 posts

242 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
quotequote all
TVR_owner said:
Stu,
TVRs running in HSCC 70s road sports run with standard calipers, discs and drums. They can only play with linings/pads, fluids and bias valves. There cars are limited to min 970 kg so not light for a racer.

Some of those cars are pushing 240+ BHP. They seem to cope smile
That sounds promising then!

A simple strip and rebuild for the calipers and drums should suffice then!

I can see me asking a lot more questions that have simplistic answers, which will make me happy. smile

Thanks

Stu

heightswitch

6,322 posts

272 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
quotequote all
People tend to forget that 9 inch drums are quite large..they were originally designed for stopping triumph saloon cars so any light weight sports car starts with an advantage straight away...unless you want extra bragging rights down the pub then as John says don't bother..The first thing you would do with rear disks is install a proportioning valve or bias bar set up and wind off 85% of the stopping power so that the rears didn't lock before the fronts.

N.

hallsie

Original Poster:

2,185 posts

242 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
quotequote all
dont want bragging rights, just something thatll stop!!

Ill leave it alone.

Should be arriving tomorrow!!!
cant wait

Stu

hallsie

Original Poster:

2,185 posts

242 months

Sunday 14th July 2013
quotequote all
What are the front calipers from?

Stu

timelord

318 posts

305 months

Monday 15th July 2013
quotequote all
Brakes are TR6 front and back, that man Adrian Venn again can supply upgraded pads for the front, makes a big difference for a simple pad change! Geoff

dryden

361 posts

191 months

Monday 15th July 2013
quotequote all
My standard road going Taimar has EBC greenstuff pads and grooved drilled solid discs on the front and Alfins and Adrian@s trick shoes on the back. I had the standard front calipers re-conditioned, and a new standard master cylinder, and Goodrich braided hoses.
Brilliant brakes!


Clive

madsvlund

345 posts

154 months

Monday 15th July 2013
quotequote all
For inspiration

Bmw E39 wheel bearings, E36solid front dish's, Lucas rear calipers (vw/audi/psa) with internal handbrake