1980 Taimar calipers
1980 Taimar calipers
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hallsie

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2,185 posts

242 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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All

Can you tell me what the front calipers are off of please?

Im also told that there are some other straight replacements, either Toyota or Volvo, can anyone advise?

Thanks

Stu

RFC1

1,109 posts

219 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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I should know as i replaced mine, but since its 4 years ago i cant be 100%. Probably TR6 . wait till someone else seconds this before buying !!!!

Sandy

GadgeS3C

4,684 posts

186 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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hallsie said:
All

Can you tell me what the front calipers are off of please?

Im also told that there are some other straight replacements, either Toyota or Volvo, can anyone advise?

Thanks

Stu
TR6 - almost certainly the metric version - there's a thread running on it.

There's a thread on the TVRCC M forum about 4 pot replacements - worth checking if you're a member. Can't recall seeing much about Toyota/Volvo though.

Cerberus90

1,553 posts

235 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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Certain toyota celica calipers can fit IIRC, but they're not easy to get hold of. Never heard of volvo ones being used.
Certain Sherpa van calipers will also fit.

dryden

361 posts

191 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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Hi Stu,

Have your standard originals reconditioned....

pridaux

4,974 posts

171 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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I have toyota Hylux from early 80s on the 3000s if that helps but call Adrian and discuss first
A

RCK974X

2,521 posts

171 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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OK, please double check, but......

Vixen and M series use TR6 calipers, which are Girling 16PB calipers.

There are also metric versions, the M16PB or 16PBM (it's got M in it somewhere !).

The TR6 had both imperial and metric versions of the calipers fitted - on the late TR6 there were special bolts for the metric versions with thicker bolt diameter at the caliper, but an imperial thread.

The metric 16PB is also fitted to the Cortina and Granada, and in fact to many Wedges, as they use Cortina/Granada front end. I believe the calipers were also fitted to other vehicles too, but not sure which ones.

heightswitch

6,322 posts

272 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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RCK974X said:
OK, please double check, but......

Vixen and M series use TR6 calipers, which are Girling 16PB calipers.

There are also metric versions, the M16PB or 16PBM (it's got M in it somewhere !).

The TR6 had both imperial and metric versions of the calipers fitted - on the late TR6 there were special bolts for the metric versions with thicker bolt diameter at the caliper, but an imperial thread.

The metric 16PB is also fitted to the Cortina and Granada, and in fact to many Wedges, as they use Cortina/Granada front end. I believe the calipers were also fitted to other vehicles too, but not sure which ones.
Why not use 2 pot jag...Bigger and easy to fit. or 3 pot e-type

RCK974X

2,521 posts

171 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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I remember I tried a 3 piston Girling caliper (don't know if it was E-type) but its offset was different, so it overlapped over the edge of the disc....

Anyway, do you know one that fits, or do you have to change [caliper] carriers and so on ?

I know there is a bolt on 4 piston Toyota that fits, but it's off an older model I think...(probably the Hilux, as mentioned above)

Cerberus90

1,553 posts

235 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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3 piston scimitar calipers will fit, but you have to change the mounting ring on the upright for the scimitar one.

Not sure if they're the same as the jag 3 pot ones?

heightswitch

6,322 posts

272 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Adrian@ said:
IMHO. There is little point moving to another caliper unless you can buy modern versions of the brake materials...if you are stuck with old friction materials because there is no money in making road/race for a Toyota hilux, what is the point.
Look at the price of new calipers as opposed to reconditioned (carriage to/carriage from for reconditioned units).
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Wednesday 17th July 12:03
i think that unless you are hillclimbing and sprinting or racing any TVR there is little point in moving away from anything std Adrian.. and as you say there are probably more race compounds available for the triumph calliper than anything spurious anyhow..

people tend to forget that Big rear drums and front TR6 callipers also stopped large triumph 6 cylinder saloon cars..a tidgy TVR is a lightweight in comparison

interested to see a pic of a scimitar 3 pot caliper!! what model was it from?

Fiscracer

585 posts

232 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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heightswitch said:
Adrian@ said:
IMHO. There is little point moving to another caliper unless you can buy modern versions of the brake materials...if you are stuck with old friction materials because there is no money in making road/race for a Toyota hilux, what is the point.
Look at the price of new calipers as opposed to reconditioned (carriage to/carriage from for reconditioned units).
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Wednesday 17th July 12:03
i think that unless you are hillclimbing and sprinting or racing any TVR there is little point in moving away from anything std Adrian.. and as you say there are probably more race compounds available for the triumph calliper than anything spurious anyhow..

people tend to forget that Big rear drums and front TR6 callipers also stopped large triumph 6 cylinder saloon cars..a tidgy TVR is a lightweight in comparison

interested to see a pic of a scimitar 3 pot caliper!! what model was it from?
Brake material is everything - but you can have too much stopping for the tyres. It is easy to mess up the balance by putting high coeffient pads on or changing rear set up. Also it rather depends on whether you want them to work from cold......most people with road cars do. If you REALLY want to stop try some Endless pads but you might look at the cost and wince.

I have run standard calipers and discs on MGBs, MG Midgets, Grantura, Lightweight E type and an Marcos 1800 GT (all race cars) and you just need the right material. The worst brakes I've had were on my 1965 Griffith 400 where the previous owner had 'upgraded' them to vented discs different calipers etc etc

Slow M

2,862 posts

228 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Fiscracer said:
. . . The worst brakes I've had . . .
Did they fail in stopping the car?
Were they too sensitive?
What made them the worst?

Best,
B.

heightswitch

6,322 posts

272 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Fiscracer said:
Brake material is everything - but you can have too much stopping for the tyres. It is easy to mess up the balance by putting high coeffient pads on or changing rear set up. Also it rather depends on whether you want them to work from cold......most people with road cars do. If you REALLY want to stop try some Endless pads but you might look at the cost and wince.

I have run standard calipers and discs on MGBs, MG Midgets, Grantura, Lightweight E type and an Marcos 1800 GT (all race cars) and you just need the right material. The worst brakes I've had were on my 1965 Griffith 400 where the previous owner had 'upgraded' them to vented discs different calipers etc etc
Like these wink



Budget install.
Discs £25ea, Calipers were inherited as were the pads..

I only had 7 laps on them so not sure if pads were st, discs were cold or just driver not used to the car hehe