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A couple of months ago I asked for opinions as to using E10 petrol & the replies were as I thought, don't use it as it damages rubbers in the fuel system.
Today on an American classic car program "Dream Car Garage" they recommended using it in all old cars as they are usually 10 to 1 comp or more, because of the higher octane rating of the fuel with the added advantage "it is good for the environment".
Has anyone first hand experience of damage due to using E10?
Today on an American classic car program "Dream Car Garage" they recommended using it in all old cars as they are usually 10 to 1 comp or more, because of the higher octane rating of the fuel with the added advantage "it is good for the environment".
Has anyone first hand experience of damage due to using E10?
Hi Steve,
Sorry, no personal experience, but here are additional data points you didn't mention:
The fuel has a substantially different stoichiometric ratio, compared to that of gasoline, and you will have to run richer jets. As a consequence, the overall mileage per tank will decrease. The potential for power is greater, because if its knock resistance, and because of its reduced combustion temperature. Mostly, those are gains you'd be more likely to see with forced induction.
In the USA, there are federal subsidies given to farmers who grow corn, the principal crop for use in ethanol production. As a result, quite a lot of virgin land has been deforested, and ploughed under for corn crops. The CO2 released in these two processes is enormous, and has to be factored against the cleaner burning flame of alcohol. I don't know where I stand on the matter of subsidies in what is supposed to be a free market system. I probably don't. I probably sit . . . on a fence.
Additionally, most of the corn used for this stuff puts money in the coffers of motherf
king Monsanto, so there's always that, to consider.
Best,
B.
Sorry, no personal experience, but here are additional data points you didn't mention:
The fuel has a substantially different stoichiometric ratio, compared to that of gasoline, and you will have to run richer jets. As a consequence, the overall mileage per tank will decrease. The potential for power is greater, because if its knock resistance, and because of its reduced combustion temperature. Mostly, those are gains you'd be more likely to see with forced induction.
In the USA, there are federal subsidies given to farmers who grow corn, the principal crop for use in ethanol production. As a result, quite a lot of virgin land has been deforested, and ploughed under for corn crops. The CO2 released in these two processes is enormous, and has to be factored against the cleaner burning flame of alcohol. I don't know where I stand on the matter of subsidies in what is supposed to be a free market system. I probably don't. I probably sit . . . on a fence.
Additionally, most of the corn used for this stuff puts money in the coffers of motherf
king Monsanto, so there's always that, to consider. Best,
B.
I agree !!
At the risk of sounding like some kind of environmental activist (which I am most definitely NOT), there are a whole range of "environmentally friendly" claims on all sorts of things, which of course are all absolute rubbish.
The only way the claims even appear reasonable is because the claimants ignore whole areas of manufacture and true impacts. The USA Corn thing (and the fact most of it is GM too) is a great example.
Claiming E10 is somehow environmentally friendly is a gross, blatant LIE.
At the risk of sounding like some kind of environmental activist (which I am most definitely NOT), there are a whole range of "environmentally friendly" claims on all sorts of things, which of course are all absolute rubbish.
The only way the claims even appear reasonable is because the claimants ignore whole areas of manufacture and true impacts. The USA Corn thing (and the fact most of it is GM too) is a great example.
Claiming E10 is somehow environmentally friendly is a gross, blatant LIE.
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