Vixen s2 question
Vixen s2 question
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chris52

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1,560 posts

204 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Hi guys could someone tel me where the earth points should be on a Vixen S2 chassis please.
Also are there only eight points that the body bolts to the chassis. The only ones I can find are two at the very rear two either side at the back of the outriggers and one at the outside of the front of the outriggers.
Many thanks Chris

tomtrout

595 posts

184 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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Hi Chris

There are several threaded studs on my S2 chassis which can be used as earthing points. There is one on the top chassis rail adjacent to the battery and roughly level with the back of the engine (on my car at least). I also have one on top of the small rail that supports the back of the inner nearside wheel arch.

As for body to chassis bolts. My S2 is bolted down using six bolts, two at the rear and then one in each corner through the corner supporting plates. In the photo below you can see the rear lugs and the corner plates.

chris52

Original Poster:

1,560 posts

204 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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Thanks for the info. Does yours not have the corner plates on the inside of the rear? Can't quite see on the picture. At the moment mine has no corner plates as it has had new outriggers welded on but not had the corner plates done. Do you have any more pictures of the bare chassis?
Many thanks Chris

tomtrout

595 posts

184 months

Thursday 27th March 2014
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I can't count! It has 8 body/chassis bolts. There are inner plates on the rear but only outer plates on the front. I think later cars were fitted with additional support plates on the inner/front as well. The photo below might help.

chris52

Original Poster:

1,560 posts

204 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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Thanks thats great.
One more question if you dont mind. The gearbox mount on the Vixen is basically one flat peice of steel with only 2 bolt holes in, does this have a special mounting rubber as the 3000m one has a slot for the rubber mount to fit in.
Chris

Adrian@

4,503 posts

303 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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Hi Chris,
Used on the early 1600M and Ford Cortina's....I have just replaced mine , I have a drivers side engine mount that I need to replace BUT I cannot fine a source.
Adrian@
Andy...yours look like new ones!

Edited by Adrian@ on Friday 28th March 08:25

chris52

Original Poster:

1,560 posts

204 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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Thanks Adrian.
I'm going to put a type 9 gearbox in the car so will probably have to move the mounting point anyway. I guess that to keep things lines up and even I will need adopt the same configuration. Also I'm thinking that the prop shaft will need shortening as the type 9 is longer plus has different size output and input shafts. So prop and clutch will need altering/replacing.
Chris

Adrian@

4,503 posts

303 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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Hi Chris,
This is a full race S3 ..I have just rebuilt all 4 corners and I'm rebuilding the shell at the moment, with out painting (a job for later) I want it MOT'd next month.
Adrian@

tomtrout

595 posts

184 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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Those engine mounts came with the original engine and are in pretty good nick. I have had to subsequently change them for the round ford mexico mounts to accommodate the 711 crossflow block.


prideaux

4,974 posts

170 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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chris52 said:
Thanks Adrian.
I'm going to put a type 9 gearbox in the car so will probably have to move the mounting point anyway. I guess that to keep things lines up and even I will need adopt the same configuration. Also I'm thinking that the prop shaft will need shortening as the type 9 is longer plus has different size output and input shafts. So prop and clutch will need altering/replacing.
Chris
Hi Chris
If you putting in a type 9 i believe you need to fabricate a bracket not at home for a week as at Goodwood this weekend but when Alan Did nine he made a rather neat bracket there is not a rubber mount on it but all looks great and works well i should be able to get some good pictures when its on the ramp in a couple of weeks for the MOT if it helps
A

Adrian@

4,503 posts

303 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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tomtrout said:
Those engine mounts came with the original engine and are in pretty good nick. I have had to subsequently change them for the round ford mexico mounts to accommodate the 711 crossflow block.
Mine has a 711 block ...perhaps that is why I cannot work out what I have/need...but they are as is, and in reality, I must of supplied/fitted them on the initial build (10 years, ish, a couple of hundred miles and one racing accident ago!!) and the passenger side is exhaust heat damaged with the drivers side sheared in the crash, I have what I thought was the correct one (as the M series fitted them too) but, until I take it off tomorrow and check it against the new one off the car (visually it they look different ATM) I will not know, I could do with the mexico mount info though, as TBH it has sheared once, I might need to upgrade (OK, it did have a major off!!). Busy making flash mouldings of the wings and grafting the foot-wells back onto the car....the roof one rear wing and door having been done!!
PM me please, TIA
Adrian@

pete.reeve

516 posts

304 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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These fit

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-RS2000-alloy...

Use the round bobbins one is smaller than the other

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Adrian@

4,503 posts

303 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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Pete,
ATM I think I have identical units on r/h and l/h (I see the listing has a number though)...I will get them off tomorrow, also the exhaust manifold is a hand-sand bent system and I doubt that I can use the round mounts, the old unit will need a protector making to stop the heat damage.
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Friday 28th March 20:00

pete.reeve

516 posts

304 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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I have some original mounts off a 681 engine that may fit.

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Adrian@

4,503 posts

303 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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Thanks Pete, I will keep that in mind. I am 100 certain that the passenger side unit (which is heat damaged one) I have on the shelf, I was sure it was the taller of the two versions BUT, the drivers side one 'looks' taller still, a man with a measuring stick is required!!....I have a lot going on ATM, the light weight bonnet is due tomorrow and that way I can complete the grafting on of the wings to the foot-wells, along with reshaping the panels, and fitting the glass to secure/seal, shut doors etc.
Adrian@

chris52

Original Poster:

1,560 posts

204 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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The round engine mounts apear to be much thicker than the original square ones unfortunatley I dont have any square ones so if someone could measure them please. The engine will fit with the larger ones but sits way to high causing the gearbox to hit the crossmember.



Chris

griff 200

509 posts

214 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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If you can't get the correct mounts may be a bit of cutting and welding is the solution ?

chris52

Original Poster:

1,560 posts

204 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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Plenty of options without needing to cut and weld. The RS2000 ones look good and look a little shorter Im pretty sure you can also get thinner round bushes but dont think the original square ones are available any more.
Chris

pete.reeve

516 posts

304 months

Sunday 30th March 2014
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http://www.burtonpower.com/parts-by-category/engin...

1 thin + 1 thick

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Edited by pete.reeve on Sunday 30th March 07:44

Astacus

3,702 posts

255 months

Sunday 30th March 2014
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Confused.

Arn't the Vixen engine mounts supposed to be these

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