Discussion
Hello,
I was wondering around near where i live the other day and down a little alley way came across a
TVR 3000M/2500M? not sure which. It seems to be in a bad state of repair and doesnt look like its
moved in a long while. I have had more recent TVR's but seen this and loved it even if it was
looking worse for wear! Anyone think I should leave my number on it to see if anyone wants it shifting for next to nothing? or nothing? or is it likely to be extremely expensive to restore that i would be sending it on its way a week later?
By the looks of things its going to be a none runner and need at least the basics if not more?
All comments welcome.
Thanks Guys.
TVR Dan
I was wondering around near where i live the other day and down a little alley way came across a
TVR 3000M/2500M? not sure which. It seems to be in a bad state of repair and doesnt look like its
moved in a long while. I have had more recent TVR's but seen this and loved it even if it was
looking worse for wear! Anyone think I should leave my number on it to see if anyone wants it shifting for next to nothing? or nothing? or is it likely to be extremely expensive to restore that i would be sending it on its way a week later?
By the looks of things its going to be a none runner and need at least the basics if not more?
All comments welcome.
Thanks Guys.
TVR Dan
Hi Dan,
It would not be the one parked up in Bowness would it? If it is when I first saw that car it had a note on it and the owner was asking 3k ish!!
If i remember correctly, it will need quite a lot doing by the looks of it. If you wanted to do it properly it would need a fair spend. It would depend how much work you can do yourself.
Rescue it though if you can! If it is that one, it is an early M with chrome bumpers I think (at least they probably were chrome once).
Cheers
Paul.
It would not be the one parked up in Bowness would it? If it is when I first saw that car it had a note on it and the owner was asking 3k ish!!
If i remember correctly, it will need quite a lot doing by the looks of it. If you wanted to do it properly it would need a fair spend. It would depend how much work you can do yourself.
Rescue it though if you can! If it is that one, it is an early M with chrome bumpers I think (at least they probably were chrome once).
Cheers
Paul.
Wow you must of read my mind! That is the one! Not sure when you seen it last but it's pretty rotten now although if the underneath isn't to bad then there's a chance. I can weld and have a bit of mechanic knowledge but nothing special. I can't stop thinking about getting another TVR since selling my last and would love to do one just as I like it. But can only afford to do it up steadily. £3000 is a little bit of joke though really as there's some nice ones around that price on pistonheads in no where as bad a state. Was hoping I could just move it for them! I would also love to think I saved another TVR from the scrap yard!
Thanks Paul
Thanks Paul
For some reason, folk think that M series cars have no value when they require restoration, but seem happy to pay fortunes for rotten MGs of a similar eara - not a poke, just the way it seems.
To restore an M series car correctly will always end up costing the owner more than it's worth - as ome on here have found out, but then the sums should have been done at the start with the factors for uncertainty and lack of realism built-in...done properly, most folk will never start!!
Ms are getting close to the point where a safe approach would be that you buy only a basket case or a completly restored example - either case you have a known entity.
Values attached to either state are difficult to assess as most resored cars have not been done well or completely, and folks have wildly varied perception of the value of condition tending towards scrap.
Other than by exception, its pretty much certain that £3000 will not buy a nice M. So the call really is, what is a basket case worth, if indeed it is a basket case and have you the heart to spend quite large sums of time and money on something that can only be justified on a labour of love basis??
To restore an M series car correctly will always end up costing the owner more than it's worth - as ome on here have found out, but then the sums should have been done at the start with the factors for uncertainty and lack of realism built-in...done properly, most folk will never start!!
Ms are getting close to the point where a safe approach would be that you buy only a basket case or a completly restored example - either case you have a known entity.
Values attached to either state are difficult to assess as most resored cars have not been done well or completely, and folks have wildly varied perception of the value of condition tending towards scrap.
Other than by exception, its pretty much certain that £3000 will not buy a nice M. So the call really is, what is a basket case worth, if indeed it is a basket case and have you the heart to spend quite large sums of time and money on something that can only be justified on a labour of love basis??
Having recently finished restoring a 2500 - and having done most of the work myself (with exception of the paint job) I can tell you it will cost at least 10k - probably more if you contracted a lot of work out and if the car is a real none runner in all respects.
As the M series cars do seem to be regularly available in the classifieds and reasonably priced, my advice would be to buy a 'good one' and save yourself the pain and mad cost of restoration. Don't feel bad about the car you've seen going to ruin on someone's drive - it ain't your fault and it will be a money pit. Buy yourself a runner and enjoy it now !
As the M series cars do seem to be regularly available in the classifieds and reasonably priced, my advice would be to buy a 'good one' and save yourself the pain and mad cost of restoration. Don't feel bad about the car you've seen going to ruin on someone's drive - it ain't your fault and it will be a money pit. Buy yourself a runner and enjoy it now !
If you're after a cheap classic shape TVR I'd say the S Series prices are pretty much as low as they are ever going to get - you can buy a runner within your budget. As with all TVR's the main points are chassis, and it sounds like you are well geared up for that.
I'll go wash my mouth out now
I'll go wash my mouth out now
I see what your saying. I would love to do it my own way and i would be certain everything had be done to my taste and know that it was right. But being realistic this isn't going to be cheap! So i'm going to have a look on the classsified for something thats not as much hard work. hopefully someeone will restore this car though! I may look into it but not if i have to pay to get it in the first place?
I can see what you were thinking, but looking at those pics I think it is safe to say that you would probably end up replacing everything on that car. The advice to look elsewhere is probably sound. It is a shame to see such a handsome car in that condition, but unless you have money to burn I think it is best to leave it well alone.
Running a DVLA check shows it has not been on the road since 1993. Shame about the date of registration though (march 1973) as it just misses out on being tax exempt.
Get it bought and back on the road. My vixen looked about the same state initially (although underneath was better than it looked).
There will be a lot of work to do but it is so much more rewarding doing it yourself than buying one as a runner for more cash to find it may have been bodged or that the shiny paint (or waxoil rather) is hiding a multitude of sins.
Looks like a 10K project at least (depending what price you can get it for) but at least you would have a nice, early M.
Get it bought and back on the road. My vixen looked about the same state initially (although underneath was better than it looked).
There will be a lot of work to do but it is so much more rewarding doing it yourself than buying one as a runner for more cash to find it may have been bodged or that the shiny paint (or waxoil rather) is hiding a multitude of sins.
Looks like a 10K project at least (depending what price you can get it for) but at least you would have a nice, early M.
Seabass said:
£800 - that glass rear window might be worth £800 on its own.
You really have no idea what state that car is in until you see one thing - the chassis... Everything else is just time and patience. It actually looks pretty good to my eyes.
+1You really have no idea what state that car is in until you see one thing - the chassis... Everything else is just time and patience. It actually looks pretty good to my eyes.
And those chrome bumpers seem to be worth quite a bit too.
Hello all. I wasn't a PH member until a few moments ago, but I thought it was worth joining as there's been some discussion on the TVR 3000m I've just secured! I too spotted the car ages ago as I regularly visit the area, and after months of mulling it over, decided to track down the owner and make an offer. And no, it wasn't £3,000!!
flyingplumvr6 said:
Hello all. I wasn't a PH member until a few moments ago, but I thought it was worth joining as there's been some discussion on the TVR 3000m I've just secured! I too spotted the car ages ago as I regularly visit the area, and after months of mulling it over, decided to track down the owner and make an offer. And no, it wasn't £3,000!!
Just to add, I contacted the owner who mentioned stripping it for spares - that was what pushed me on a bit towards making an offer, as I didn't want to see a classic TVR disappear for ever. It's going to be lots of hard work, time and money, but I'm sure then end result will be worth it!Thanks all!
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