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My FIA MkIII 1800S finally starts, stops and has an MOT. Referring to another post I reckon over 1000 hours and that was on a car that was already 'on the button' ha ha. All steel engine, SC gearbox, LSD etc etc etc. Tyres will change to historic crossplies once we have shaken it down.
There's also engine running at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D95AC2mC1uc
There's also engine running at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D95AC2mC1uc
heightswitch said:
I never realised they made an 1800S in 65 ?
The JNP plate is interesting. and LHD?
Looks pretty, I like the frenched in filler cap Richard, amongst other little details.
N.
NeilThe JNP plate is interesting. and LHD?
Looks pretty, I like the frenched in filler cap Richard, amongst other little details.
N.
Edited by heightswitch on Friday 6th May 07:59
There about 10 MkIII 1800S's still around of about 40 built pre 66, most are MkIV's and later (including a well known red one with FIA papers...........)
Car was originally built by DG, hence all the hours putting it right. Still some niggles coming to light but I plan to start testing in the next week or so.
How much more have you got to do with yours?
Jon I don't want to show up your TR4 road racer ;-)))
Grantura MKI said:
I do not care for the cheap shot at D/G...if you did not like the car as it was done, then move on.
BTW I sold that 1800 to D/G a few years ago.
Cheap shot? Maybe others may also have been responsible but some things clearly were done by them prior to getting FIA papers. Seat and harnesses attached to fibreglass with no re-inforcing anyone? I could make a list as long as your arm....BTW I sold that 1800 to D/G a few years ago.
I think that is unlikely. I have all the paperwork and owners for the last 20 years and you are not mentioned anywhere. Where did it live in the 1970s and 1980s and what colour was it?
Fiscracer said:
Neil
There about 10 MkIII 1800S's still around of about 40 built pre 66, most are MkIV's and later (including a well known red one with FIA papers...........)
Car was originally built by DG, hence all the hours putting it right. Still some niggles coming to light but I plan to start testing in the next week or so.
How much more have you got to do with yours?
Jon I don't want to show up your TR4 road racer ;-)))
This is interesting. I wasn't aware that the Kamm tailed version of the Mk3 had ever raced internationally and thought that the FIA were pretty hot on bodyshapes these days. But, if the 'red one' has been given papers (recently) then presumably they're OK with it.There about 10 MkIII 1800S's still around of about 40 built pre 66, most are MkIV's and later (including a well known red one with FIA papers...........)
Car was originally built by DG, hence all the hours putting it right. Still some niggles coming to light but I plan to start testing in the next week or so.
How much more have you got to do with yours?
Jon I don't want to show up your TR4 road racer ;-)))
Presumably the chassis number of yours is of the format 65/5/10xx with the xx being less than 45?
Looks and sounds good, look forward to seeing it out racing.
TF
Fiscracer said:
Neil
There about 10 MkIII 1800S's still around of about 40 built pre 66, most are MkIV's and later (including a well known red one with FIA papers...........)
Car was originally built by DG, hence all the hours putting it right. Still some niggles coming to light but I plan to start testing in the next week or so.
How much more have you got to do with yours?
Jon I don't want to show up your TR4 road racer ;-)))
Hiya Richard.There about 10 MkIII 1800S's still around of about 40 built pre 66, most are MkIV's and later (including a well known red one with FIA papers...........)
Car was originally built by DG, hence all the hours putting it right. Still some niggles coming to light but I plan to start testing in the next week or so.
How much more have you got to do with yours?
Jon I don't want to show up your TR4 road racer ;-)))
getting a lot closer to getting out. Ally tanks of various shapes and sizes on order. I have a few more weeks in the garage and hopefully we will get it shaken down and out by about August.
Just back from Brands.
John Simpson went very well today in his M in future classics bagging a 3rd in class I think.
geoff as usually enjoyed the weekends racing.
A few safety cars in swinging 60's and some carnage though.
N.
Edited by heightswitch on Sunday 8th May 21:24
Edited by heightswitch on Sunday 8th May 21:25
Edited by heightswitch on Sunday 8th May 21:36
Your car looks like the one D/G sold through the Race retro auction a few years back.
I believe that it was orange and had a Corvette diff fitted. The car required a new body.
Being how you do not know if the work was done by D/G, it would be best to keep your comment off of the forum.
I believe that it was orange and had a Corvette diff fitted. The car required a new body.
Being how you do not know if the work was done by D/G, it would be best to keep your comment off of the forum.
Thurner Fan said:
This is interesting. I wasn't aware that the Kamm tailed version of the Mk3 had ever raced internationally and thought that the FIA were pretty hot on bodyshapes these days. But, if the 'red one' has been given papers (recently) then presumably they're OK with it.
Presumably the chassis number of yours is of the format 65/5/10xx with the xx being less than 45?
Looks and sounds good, look forward to seeing it out racing.
TF
You are correct on chassis no.Presumably the chassis number of yours is of the format 65/5/10xx with the xx being less than 45?
Looks and sounds good, look forward to seeing it out racing.
TF
A red one has had papers for years, mine got them in 2006 and speaking to JL recently two more have recently received them including the very nicely prepped red one.
Given that most of the round tail MkIIIs should be running 1600 MGA engines and the acceptance of different body styles with all marques, if there ever was an issue, I'm not sure there is one now.
R
Grantura MKI said:
Your car looks like the one D/G sold through the Race retro auction a few years back.
I believe that it was orange and had a Corvette diff fitted. The car required a new body.
Being how you do not know if the work was done by D/G, it would be best to keep your comment off of the forum.
It is that one, but it retains the original body. I looked at it at Inkberrow in 2005 before I bought my other MkIII. As jellison says DG built it and got the papers and as far as I can tell it had hardly changed prior to me getting it.I believe that it was orange and had a Corvette diff fitted. The car required a new body.
Being how you do not know if the work was done by D/G, it would be best to keep your comment off of the forum.
I won't list the faults or the daft things that had been done but it had clearly been finished on the cheap, when they realised they were going to lose money on it. A race car it was not and many of the things would have made it very dangerous as a road car, although the engine was such a dog's breakfast it would have struggled to go fast enough to get into trouble.
Suggest we close the matter of who did what there, as it is effectively a different car now.
Fiscracer said:
You are correct on chassis no.
A red one has had papers for years, mine got them in 2006 and speaking to JL recently two more have recently received them including the very nicely prepped red one.
Given that most of the round tail MkIIIs should be running 1600 MGA engines and the acceptance of different body styles with all marques, if there ever was an issue, I'm not sure there is one now.
R
To be fair to them, I think the vast majority of racers with round tail MkIIIs have made a conscious choice to prepare their cars in line with the homologation papers for the Mk III 1800 (No. 160 from April 1964) rather than the earlier papers for the Mk III with the 1622cc MGA engine (No. 68 from August 1962). The chassis was the same and the bodyshape didn't change, save for some reprofiling around the number plate but, as you've established, the FIA doesn't seem care too much about the details of body shape anyway.A red one has had papers for years, mine got them in 2006 and speaking to JL recently two more have recently received them including the very nicely prepped red one.
Given that most of the round tail MkIIIs should be running 1600 MGA engines and the acceptance of different body styles with all marques, if there ever was an issue, I'm not sure there is one now.
R
So, it's not really correct to say that most of the round tails should be using the 1622cc engine. If the owner has prepped his car to the homologated spec of the later Mk III 1800 (which allows him/her to use 6" rims, slightly larger Webers and a limited slip diff as well as the bigger engine) then that's perfectly in line with the rules. It's true there were maybe only 40 or so actual cars that left the factory in Mk III 1800 spec (Sept '63 onwards) but there's nothing in the rules to prevent someone starting with one of the earlier Mk III s and making it into a Mk III 1800 racer. It may not be right but it's the way it is these days.
As for those Granturas that run with 1840cc engines in the Le Mans Classic, that's another matter!
TF
Adrian@ said:
I am not up to date on what aspires to be CURRENT FIA paper compliant ...is it that cars with old FIA papers run as they are OR do they have to re apply and run to current FIA papers.
Adrian@
Frankly Adrian it depends on the event and the organisers, some will accept the old papers and others will not. Also Jim and John the UK's FIA scrutineers have tightened up what they consider to be acceptable, so some cars currently with papers would not now get them without modification - not just TVRs.Adrian@
Fiscracer said:
Adrian@ said:
I am not up to date on what aspires to be CURRENT FIA paper compliant ...is it that cars with old FIA papers run as they are OR do they have to re apply and run to current FIA papers.
Adrian@
Frankly Adrian it depends on the event and the organisers, some will accept the old papers and others will not. Also Jim and John the UK's FIA scrutineers have tightened up what they consider to be acceptable, so some cars currently with papers would not now get them without modification - not just TVRs.Adrian@
Fiscracer said:
Frankly Adrian it depends on the event and the organisers, some will accept the old papers and others will not. Also Jim and John the UK's FIA scrutineers have tightened up what they consider to be acceptable, so some cars currently with papers would not now get them without modification - not just TVRs.
Sounds like the "good ol' boys club" Make up the rules as you go along.Gassing Station | TVR Classics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff