Can Hamilton race?
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rfein

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67 posts

186 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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Looking at where he is in the points standing, looking at the fact that he had to see the stewards in five out of the last six races (and not because he is black), and looking at his manouvers yesterday, I have some doubt.
One thing we know since yesterday: He can't overtake, but he can't stand behind either!

Jasandjules

72,572 posts

258 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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Yes he can. One of the best out there too.

GeraldSmith

6,887 posts

246 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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At Monaco the answer is no, because nobody can race there, it's a complete waste of time, all they can do is follow each other round or, as he did, get frustrated and drive into people.

Ben Jk

1,714 posts

195 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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Yep. One of the few proper "racing" drivers out there.


pw32

1,032 posts

227 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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rfein said:
Looking at where he is in the points standing, looking at the fact that he had to see the stewards in five out of the last six races (and not because he is black), and looking at his manouvers yesterday, I have some doubt.
One thing we know since yesterday: He can't overtake, but he can't stand behind either!
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One of the most stupid posts I have ever seen. Widely regarded by most people who have ever watched a race as the best overtaker in the business bar none. Was yesterday your first race?

Ben Jk

1,714 posts

195 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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Definatley too much "strategy" and not enough racing these days.


jonnylayze

1,640 posts

255 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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pw32 said:
rfein said:
Looking at where he is in the points standing, looking at the fact that he had to see the stewards in five out of the last six races (and not because he is black), and looking at his manouvers yesterday, I have some doubt.
One thing we know since yesterday: He can't overtake, but he can't stand behind either!
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One of the most stupid posts I have ever seen. Widely regarded by most people who have ever watched a race as the best overtaker in the business bar none. Was yesterday your first race?
This

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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He was not at fault yesterday. The cars did turn in on him to cause an incident. The FIA has a long running and real issue with McLaren.

Hamilton and Alonso are the best all round drivers out there.

Ben Jk

1,714 posts

195 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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A.G. said:
What, like F1 hasn't been a strategy sport for years? rolleyes

As Monaco GPs go, there have been a lot more processional ones than that over recent years.
Do you not read the "too much" part of my comments?

Tbh I think they should develop a tyre that lasts a whole race, only have pit stops for wets if needed and let them battle it out. Like it used to be.

Pints

18,451 posts

223 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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This
pw32 said:
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One of the most stupid posts I have ever seen. Widely regarded by most people who have ever watched a race as the best overtaker in the business bar none. Was yesterday your first race?
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MSTRBKR said:
He was not at fault yesterday. The cars did turn in on him to cause an incident. The FIA has a long running and real issue with McLaren.

Hamilton and Alonso are the best all round drivers out there.
At least Hamilton will make the effort to overtake, unlike Vettel who is terrified of coming near another car on the track.

Stack

795 posts

216 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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Has the OP ever seen Lewis Hamilton race ? He cant overtake !! He is probably the best overtaker in F1.

What really narks me is constant dishing out of penalties when drivers have contact it discourages drivers from overtaking ..

krissstephen

170 posts

197 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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without a shadow of a doubt yes! him and alonso are the most aggressive racers there, they want to win 100% of the time!

CanadianScot

1,916 posts

195 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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rfein said:
Looking at where he is in the points standing, looking at the fact that he had to see the stewards in five out of the last six races (and not because he is black), and looking at his manouvers yesterday, I have some doubt.
One thing we know since yesterday: He can't overtake, but he can't stand behind either!
You mean 2nd? What a terrible position that is...

Do you follow F1 at all?


Bill Carr

2,234 posts

263 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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He had a st weekend and was petulant both inside and outside the car. In my opinion, it was an expression of his frustration at the championship steadily going away from him despite his considerable efforts.

One bad weekend does not a bad racer make.

jodypress

2,102 posts

303 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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MSTRBKR said:
He was not at fault yesterday. The cars did turn in on him to cause an incident. The FIA has a long running and real issue with McLaren.

Hamilton and Alonso are the best all round drivers out there.
I agree with you, at first glance, the Massa one seemed to be his fault, but when you re-look at some of the stills posted on the other thread, it's obvious that Massa went wide, ut in early then out braked himself into the back of Webber.
Again Pedro braked early and cut in on LH, look at PM's previous lines through the same corner.

F1 is getting to be a bit of a joke when someone tried to overtake and all the driver doing the overtaking has to do is cut in and cause an accident and it's the overtakers fault and they are penalised. Crazy.


AlpineWhite

2,164 posts

224 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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Bill Carr said:
He had a st weekend and was petulant both inside and outside the car. In my opinion, it was an expression of his frustration at the championship steadily going away from him despite his considerable efforts.

One bad weekend does not a bad racer make.
A good way to sum up his weekend.

Also, let's remember that with every attempt to overtake, there's a risk of contact. I'm willing to bet that LH is more likely to attempt a move than most other drivers, hence we will see the odd bump here and there.

Dunit

645 posts

234 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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Yesterday showed that he had the same ruthlessness that marked his idol and for that matter Schuey in his winning years.
Ayrton would see a gap and go for it and leave the other driver to sort out wether thay felt lucky or not.
He used to say if you dont want me to pass you, drive faster and would have watched Lewis race yesterday with satisfaction.

rfein

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67 posts

186 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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I have been following every single F1 race and many others since 1971, many of them at the circuit, and believe me Ihave seen many an idiot racing in F1.
Agressiveness doesn't win races and championships, and Hamilton's position in the oints standings shows exactly this. How can a professional loose his temper this way? He get's mad and looses his temper, and the others collect the points (apart from those he puts in the wall). What an immature kid!

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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MSTRBKR said:
He was not at fault yesterday. The cars did turn in on him to cause an incident. The FIA has a long running and real issue with McLaren.

Hamilton and Alonso are the best all round drivers out there.
yes

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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rfein said:
I have been following every single F1 race and many others since 1971, many of them at the circuit, and believe me Ihave seen many an idiot racing in F1.
Agressiveness doesn't win races and championships, and Hamilton's position in the oints standings shows exactly this. How can a professional loose his temper this way? He get's mad and looses his temper, and the others collect the points (apart from those he puts in the wall). What an immature kid!
http://www.formula1.com/results/driver/

Read and inwardly digest.
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