Volkswagen says it may consider joining Formula 1 in 2018
Volkswagen says it may consider joining Formula 1 in 2018
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Scuffers

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Thursday 28th July 2011
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from Autosport.

this kind of annoys the st out of me, having had the FIA clowns screw the engine regs on the basis that they might be interested in coming out to play, they now say it's not stable enough or has the wrong image...

does this mean that we go though the engine bullst again in time for 2018?

Use Psychology

11,327 posts

221 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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F1: sounds... like a golf

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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Three-cylinder diesels for 2018, and all cars must be grey.

E30M3SE

8,493 posts

225 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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LOL.

SimonY

348 posts

237 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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Winner to be judged on perceived quality of soft-touch interior plastics

Crafty_

14,072 posts

229 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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Timewasters.

The whole 4 cylinder engine spec was for them, because they said they'd like to enter F1 and it had to be a 4 cylinder engine.
After lots of faffing about they decide they aren't interested after all, hence all the teams drop the 4 cylinder engine like a hot potato and go for a V6 that is easier to package.

Now they say they might be interested in entering in 7 years time ? Do me a favour..

Its almost as if the bosses want to keep on getting invited to the paddock club so they can schmooze with the other VIPs who don't give a toss about racing either.

Crafty_

14,072 posts

229 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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PW said:
The FIA rewrote the rule book of F1 against the wishes of almost everyone involved in the sport simply to entice VW into entering a couple of cars?

I think it was more borne out of Mad Max Mosley's plan for a ubiquitous 4-cyl FIA engine to power almost every category the sport governed in various states of tune - F1, F2, WRC, WTCC...
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/170745/1/newey_audi_t...


Edited by Crafty_ on Thursday 28th July 20:17

PhillipM

6,556 posts

218 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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PW said:
The FIA rewrote the rule book of F1 against the wishes of almost everyone involved in the sport simply to entice VW into entering a couple of cars?

I think it was more borne out of Mad Max Mosley's plan for a ubiquitous 4-cyl FIA engine to power almost every category the sport governed in various states of tune - F1, F2, WRC, WTCC...
Why not, they did it for 'em in Le Mans...

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

284 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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Crafty_ said:
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/170745/1/newey_audi_t...


Edited by Crafty_ on Thursday 28th July 20:17
Why can't a 4pot be structural? Block too small, or something?

Use Psychology

11,327 posts

221 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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too easy to twist?

Derek Smith

49,678 posts

277 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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PW said:
The FIA rewrote the rule book of F1 against the wishes of almost everyone involved in the sport simply to entice VW into entering a couple of cars?

I think it was more borne out of Mad Max Mosley's plan for a ubiquitous 4-cyl FIA engine to power almost every category the sport governed in various states of tune - F1, F2, WRC, WTCC...
Like the Porsce days at Le Mans?

Scuffers

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20,887 posts

303 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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ChiChoAndy said:
Why can't a 4pot be structural? Block too small, or something?
too narrow, only one bank of cylinders.

unless you plan on making an engine fat enough, in which case you now have a very heavy lump with a 4 pot engine in the middle.

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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Derek Smith said:
Like the Porsce days at Le Mans?
? since when did thE FIA re write the rules to suit Parsche?

Scuffers

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Thursday 28th July 2011
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Was not suggesting that Audi were the only factor, however, they were certainly part of it.

As for Renault, they need to figure out what they want with F1, they have a car with their name still in F1, having said they want out, then try and shove an unpopular engine on F1, yet have still to commit to actually staying in F1?

What this actually comes down to is why do we need/want car manufactures (in the traditional sense) in F1?

you only have to look at what they have done over the years with their coming and going, ie. no long term commitment - asides from Ferrari, no other manufacture has stayed the course have they?