How long before Vettel is crowned WDC
How long before Vettel is crowned WDC
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reedman

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588 posts

223 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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Vettel will surely be crown F1 world champion, barring a an accident that stops him for the rest of the season.

1 Sebastian Vettel 259
2 Mark Webber 167
3 Fernando Alonso 157
4 Jenson Button 149
5 Lewis Hamilton 146

7 races left.

I think he will have it bagged up by Singapore.




John D.

20,946 posts

238 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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Could do it now as far as I'm concerned biggrin

Still much to enjoy this season though.

Nedz

2,439 posts

203 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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Hes got it in the bag now as far as im concerned but 'mathematically' i would say after another 3 races unless he has a DNF.

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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He's got to pull out a 175-point gap on second in the championship, I can't see him managing that in the next seven races without everyone else getting a load of no scores/DNFs. Someone else with "mathematically" be able to win all the way to the last race.

Jasandjules

72,569 posts

258 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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I think it's going to be Singapore at the latest. I think it's also fair to say that the other teams have, in essence, accepted that he is the winner too..... Stating it's "mathematically" possible is one thing, BUT for one other driver to win every future race is unlikely, there are 3-4 other drivers in with a shout for a few races.

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

271 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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They can crown him now if they like, i really don't care.

What goes on behind him is much more interesting.

Rob_F

4,153 posts

293 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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EDLT said:
He's got to pull out a 175-point gap on second in the championship, I can't see him managing that in the next seven races without everyone else getting a load of no scores/DNFs. Someone else with "mathematically" be able to win all the way to the last race.
Erm, I would think after the next race it's a 150 point gap, then 125 points etc..... wink

poing

8,743 posts

229 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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MonkeyHanger said:
They can crown him now if they like, i really don't care.

What goes on behind him is much more interesting.
Exactly this for me. I never think Vettel is very exciting to watch for some reason, probably because he has been very good recently at avoiding trouble so it makes him look dull.

llewop

3,945 posts

240 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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Gaz. said:
I thought he needed two wins and one more point int he 3rd race over Webber to win?

Do the others not have to score roughly twice the points he does in every race just to remain in contention in the last race?
I think you're about right vs Webber - although I suspect that assumes Red Bull 1-2's, if Webber is less than second or especially doesn't score it could be done and dusted in a couple of races, depending on how everyone else's scores pan out.

Having said that, not even Red Bull would be betting on Red Bull to win Monza! so it may drag out a little longer....

groomi

9,331 posts

272 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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llewop said:
Having said that, not even Red Bull would be betting on Red Bull to win Monza! so it may drag out a little longer....
They said that about Spa, but came home with a 1-2...

the other me

614 posts

182 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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Historically, it has not been unusual for the championship to be "in the bag" long before the last race, but we have been spoiled a little this last 4 years.
Me, I have no problem with SV winning, Hell, nobody could argue he doesn't deserve it, but I would of course like it to go to the last race.
Barring a lot of bad luck for Seb, or something truly Mercurial from someone else, I doubt it will.
Just a bit dissapointed that Webber couldn't run him a bit closer, same car & all that, last year he led him most of the year till the last race, come on Mark mate, I had higher hopes than that ! !

MG CHRIS

9,322 posts

196 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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Good point vettel has deserved his title this year yea he may have the best car but so did button in 09, for the first part anyway, hamy in 08. Hes kept his head scored points at every round and hasn't been out of the top 5 all season where hamy has lost it, alonso/ massa not having a good car button been good in mixed conditions but average in other races and even his own team mate cant get close. He may not be exciting but he done what he needed to tog et where he is. To the original question singapore he will have it.

Evangelion

8,593 posts

207 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Looking at the 61-year history of the F1 World Championship from 1950 to 2010, I would say that in less than ten of those years has the World Champion NOT had the best car.

Phil-CH

1,132 posts

293 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Evangelion said:
Looking at the 61-year history of the F1 World Championship from 1950 to 2010, I would say that in less than ten of those years has the World Champion NOT had the best car.
The question isn't "who has won with not the best car" - the question is, by how much was the car of the leader better than the rest? In Vettels case (and Buttons in 2009), the car was significantly better at various stages of the championship. You can't say that of Hamilton in 2008 for example. It's easy to say that of RedBull this year, as he has dominated the first half of the season and since then, still in qualifying.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

255 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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poing said:
MonkeyHanger said:
They can crown him now if they like, i really don't care.

What goes on behind him is much more interesting.
Exactly this for me. I never think Vettel is very exciting to watch for some reason, probably because he has been very good recently at avoiding trouble so it makes him look dull.
It's like watching Steve Davis play snooker.

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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i reckon he'll win it in Japan

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

243 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Unless he crashes and breaks his leg or something I would say that it is already done and dusted.

Redlake27

2,255 posts

273 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Phil-CH said:
The question isn't "who has won with not the best car" - the question is, by how much was the car of the leader better than the rest? In Vettels case (and Buttons in 2009), the car was significantly better at various stages of the championship. You can't say that of Hamilton in 2008 for example. It's easy to say that of RedBull this year, as he has dominated the first half of the season and since then, still in qualifying.
But in the years where one car has been dominant, such as McLaren in 88, Williams in 87, 92 and 96, Brawn in 09, the champion has quite often been beaten by his team-mate. Vettel has trounced Webber this year, so it will be a hugely deserving championship win.

Salgar

3,285 posts

213 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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Rob_F said:
EDLT said:
He's got to pull out a 175-point gap on second in the championship, I can't see him managing that in the next seven races without everyone else getting a load of no scores/DNFs. Someone else with "mathematically" be able to win all the way to the last race.
Erm, I would think after the next race it's a 150 point gap, then 125 points etc..... wink
Quite.

weyland yutani

1,410 posts

193 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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skinny said:
i reckon he'll win it in Japan
Agreed, he's bound to win another race even though he could put his feet up for a few races. RBR were immense at Suzuka and Interlagos, he'l take the title in Japan I reckon.