Greatest MODERN F1 driver never to win a WDC
Greatest MODERN F1 driver never to win a WDC
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Nick3point2

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3,920 posts

209 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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I'm currently watching a round up of the 2001 F1 season compliments of an old playstation game and it's got me thinking: in the last 30 years, who is the best F1 driver not to win a WDC?

For me, it looks to be Montoya, but that is only based on the snap shots shown in the season round up.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Brundle, I reckon, given what he managed to do elsewhere when he had a decent car under him.

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

271 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Joseph Gilles Henri Villeneuve.

Dancin

382 posts

238 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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David Coultard

Nick3point2

Original Poster:

3,920 posts

209 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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davepoth said:
Brundle, I reckon, given what he managed to do elsewhere when he had a decent car under him.
He didn't even win a race, let alone a WDC, so I don't see him as deserving.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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MonkeyHanger said:
Joseph Gilles Henri Villeneuve.
Seconded.

I suppose Carlos Reutemann just about squeezes into the 30 year criteria too.

rampageturke

2,625 posts

191 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Rubens

Dancin

382 posts

238 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Nick3point2 said:
He didn't even win a race, let alone a WDC, so I don't see him as deserving.
Effort vs crap car!

xspencex

1,534 posts

265 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Alesi? I guess it was a mixture of bad cars, and some silly mistakes, but he had the raw talent and speed to do it.

Coulthard, always in the shaddow of somebody else, Damon, Mika, Kimi, etc.




Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Nick3point2 said:
davepoth said:
Brundle, I reckon, given what he managed to do elsewhere when he had a decent car under him.
He didn't even win a race, let alone a WDC, so I don't see him as deserving.
He was, however, quite successful in sportscars - hence davepoth's comment.

RYH64E

7,960 posts

273 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Dancin said:
David Coultard
Did he ever out perform his team mate? If you can't do that then you don't deserve to be WDC, and don't forget DC spent his entire career driving decent cars.

Crafty_

14,067 posts

229 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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I'll go with Brundle, if McLaren hadn't picked that god awful Peugeot engine I reckon he would of done enough to of stayed there and who knows what would of happened.

Going back further, some would say Moss ?

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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rampageturke said:
Rubens
+1, but then again like Coulthard and Massa always in 2nd place to his teammate?

Alesi is a good shout too.

Nicholas Blair

4,111 posts

313 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Berger smile

GAjon

4,076 posts

242 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Trulli & Fissichela spring to mind as very fast drivers with succes in other formula that didn't reach thier potential in F1. But I also rated Alesi and HH Frentzen aswell.

Crafty_

14,067 posts

229 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Long shot - what about Karl Wendlinger ?

IIRC he was doing quite well until his accident and had a decent background in sportscars? Potential was there ?

Francois Cevert ? had run well at LeMans and proved he could live with Stewart before his untimely death ?

Edited by Crafty_ on Sunday 23 October 19:30

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Peterson (well just over 30 years) and Villeneuve the standouts surely

Reuteman, should have been champion but blew it when it was in his grasp

Nick3point2

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209 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Crafty_ said:
Going back further, some would say Moss ?
There's no debate there, hence saying modern wink

So being as far as magny cours in the season I'd like to say all the great drivers of the early noughties who didn't win WDC were all overshadowed by team mates, so I'm not sure how good a measure that is: if you are number 2 to the best in the world that shouldn't detract from how good you are.

I'm just astounded by the reliability issues! So many great drives ruined by the car giving up!

m444ttb

3,183 posts

258 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Definitely not Coulthard or Rubens. Much as the latter could say he wasn't allowed at Ferrari he could have done it in 2009. DC even says he had his chance and didn't manage it.

SlipStream77

2,153 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Warwick and Bellof could have been champions with the right cars.