A perfect example of money buying someone into F1

[woof]

Max Chilton joins Force India for Abu Dhabi test !

He's never won a race in anything but Tcars and I don't think he has ever finished a season than being at the back of the field ? Though i think he had a ok season with Carlin in F3 but then again Carlin is the team to be with

GP2 2010 - 22nd
GP2 2011 - 20th


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95998

[jarnold88]

To be fair max is very good, and kobayashi was crap in gp2.

[Jungles]

Kobayashi won the GP2 Asia series. Hardly crap.

[Classic Grad 98]

I thought Force India had too many drivers as it is!

[jarnold88]

Jungles said:

Kobayashi won the GP2 Asia series. Hardly crap.

Did crap in europe though, always similar to what max is doing iirc

[andy97]

His dad did sell his insurance company to Aon for about £80M, though, get a job on the Board of Aon & then persuade them to sponser his sons. How much talent does a chap need??????

[EDLT]

woof said:

Max Chilton joins Force India for Abu Dhabi test !

He's never won a race in anything but Tcars

Do you mean touring cars? Because that was Tom Chilton (his brother).

[MSport Calendar]

T-Cars was (is?) a young person's race series in identical spaceframed saloon cars.

[Otispunkmeyer]

Isnt T-cars some lower rung touring car league for younger guys? Im sure a guy I went to school with (Johnny Cocker) did TCars while we were at school.

[williamp]

If you win a lot of cash (say, the Euromillins £100m), wouldnt you give some cash to one of the smaller teams in return for soem friday time? The ability to be in a current F1 car, on an F1 track. Surely after some practice in lower formulae cars, it'll be worth some £m...

[woof]

EDLT said:

woof said:

Max Chilton joins Force India for Abu Dhabi test !

He's never won a race in anything but Tcars

Do you mean touring cars? Because that was Tom Chilton (his brother).

Max raced in TCars as well.

I wonder how much Mr Chilton is paying ?
Got to be in the region of £750k + ?

[GarrettMacD]

EDLT said:

woof said:

Max Chilton joins Force India for Abu Dhabi test !

He's never won a race in anything but Tcars

Do you mean touring cars? Because that was Tom Chilton (his brother).

I think he means the T-Car series run by BRSCC about 5 years ago. They were a spaceframe chassis with some bodywork to make them look like saloons. A bit like a Formula Ford with a saloon body.

Quite a few went through T-cars, IIRC, including Brundle jnr, Palmer jnr, both Chiltons, etc. Towards the end of the series the budgets went mental, as did the amount of contact, hence the low turnouts before it was canned.

[woof]

Otispunkmeyer said:

Isnt T-cars some lower rung touring car league for younger guys? Im sure a guy I went to school with (Johnny Cocker) did TCars while we were at school.

Yep spot on. It was juniors - 14 to 17 I think. Ginetta juniors has superseded it
And yes, Johnny Cocker did do it and then went on the porsche grid i think ?

[P-Jay]

Ah yes, T-Brats as I've heard it called.

Seem to recall they looked a bit like 2/3rd scales 3dr Mondeos and crashed into each other a lot.

[Rude-boy]

T-cars existed - Budgets never really wnet mental, they just didn't stack up once GJr's arrived and the series was canned.

Max on the other hand should be bought a flock of sheep as he has a chance of being able to drive those. Seriously, I'm as good as he is.

[EDLT]

GarrettMacD said:

EDLT said:

woof said:

Max Chilton joins Force India for Abu Dhabi test !

He's never won a race in anything but Tcars

Do you mean touring cars? Because that was Tom Chilton (his brother).

I think he means the T-Car series run by BRSCC about 5 years ago. They were a spaceframe chassis with some bodywork to make them look like saloons. A bit like a Formula Ford with a saloon body.

Quite a few went through T-cars, IIRC, including Brundle jnr, Palmer jnr, both Chiltons, etc. Towards the end of the series the budgets went mental, as did the amount of contact, hence the low turnouts before it was canned.

Ah, every day is a school day.

I had wondered why there wasn't a series where the cars were basically spaceframes with a car-like body on top, it's very popular in America. Clearly not so much over here.

[StevieBee]

williamp said:

If you win a lot of cash (say, the Euromillins £100m), wouldnt you give some cash to one of the smaller teams in return for soem friday time? The ability to be in a current F1 car, on an F1 track. Surely after some practice in lower formulae cars, it'll be worth some £m...

Assuming they'd be happy with a 44 year old carrying a few extra Ibs, then I'd be in like shot :-)

Works the other way round too.

In 1992, I managed to wangle a press pass for tyre testing at Silverstone. Williams were running two cars for Mansell and Patrese and a third for a host of drivers, most of whom I'd never heard of before or since. I was told that they'd each paid £100k for their moment of glory. I reckon there were about 5 other drivers so that's an income of £0.5m and I rather doubt it would have cost the team that to be there. Plus, this was then a regular thing at a variety of circuits throughout the year and today, I'm fairly certain, would cost a lot more than £100k.

But, with the testing ban, it's a revenue stream that isn't available to the teams any more so when it is, they need to jump on it.

Personally, I have no issue with it. I do have an issue with a pay driver taking the race seat of a more skill full but underfunded driver.

[anonymous-user]

jarnold88 said:

To be fair max is very good, and kobayashi was crap in gp2.

You are so wrong. Max is talentless just like his brother. They always have been always will be. There are hundreds if not thousands of better, faster club drivers than these two.

This is a disgrace and Force India should be ashamed of themselves. Are they that desperate for cash? Perhaps the truth behind the Sahara deal will soon be out........

[drakart]

REALIST123 said:

jarnold88 said:

To be fair max is very good, and kobayashi was crap in gp2.

You are so wrong. Max is talentless just like his brother. They always have been always will be. There are hundreds if not thousands of better, faster club drivers than these two.

This is a disgrace and Force India should be ashamed of themselves. Are they that desperate for cash? Perhaps the truth behind the Sahara deal will soon be out........

"talentless" - really?
Some people need to get real.

[anonymous-user]

drakart said:

"talentless" - really?
Some people need to get real.

Your last sentence is correct but it should be aimed at yourself if you think the Chiltons have got anywhere for any other reason than £££££. They are both classic examples of the worst sort of 'professional' racing driver, as has been cleary demonstrated by the elder brother's 'running' of his team in recent years.

Underachievers of the lowest order.