Horrific crash in Argentina - haven't they learnt anything?!
Horrific crash in Argentina - haven't they learnt anything?!
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Jungles

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3,587 posts

250 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Just saw this on another site: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWNqx5fhd3g

Ghastly crash. Absolutely terrible track safety and dismal driver conduct (speeding full pelt into a dust cloud).

There have been a lot of complaints about how F1 and modern racing in general, have become too risk free. I'd much rather lose a bit of spectacle than witness crashes like this.

RIP to the driver, Guido Falaschi, killed in the crash (green and black car).

Edited by Jungles on Monday 14th November 09:54

clonmult

10,529 posts

238 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Jungles said:
Absolutely terrible track safety and dismal driver conduct (speeding full pelt into a dust cloud).
Its the driver conduct that stands out - truly terrible, no concept of common sense in the drivers at all.

croyde

26,298 posts

259 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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RIP frown

The BBC film Total Wipeout in Argentina to get around health and safety regulations as there are non.

scubadude

2,619 posts

226 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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What kind of Formula was that? Seemed pretty fast given the crude circuit barriers... the chap with the yello bonnet who T-bones the crashed car is gonna have alot of trouble sleeping after that I'd imagine :-(

The Wookie

14,209 posts

257 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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With regards to the barriers, you want to take a look at the ones on the outside of Goodwood or Church at Thruxton before commenting on those ones!

sb-1

3,373 posts

292 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Driving standards appear to be shocking RIP...

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Pedal to the metal amigo.

RIP.

Dr Gonzo

159 posts

202 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Chilling stuff.


rampageturke

2,625 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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From someone who knows more about this series:

the cars are pretty safe, they have a similar tube chasis from the NASCAR ones, but that side impact was at 100mph and the medic of the series says the driver dind't tight up the helmet at all (died from a skull base fracture)

jimmystratos

2,403 posts

261 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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How come the field came round another lap after the red flag? A couple of cars pulled in and stopped, but the last thing the rescue teams needed was the whole grid trying to drive through the scene. Again.

The Wookie

14,209 posts

257 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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rampageturke said:
From someone who knows more about this series:

the cars are pretty safe, they have a similar tube chasis from the NASCAR ones, but that side impact was at 100mph and the medic of the series says the driver dind't tight up the helmet at all (died from a skull base fracture)
I didn't want to say it but I did think that, although massive, none of those impacts looked unsurviveable, and the car stood up relatively well without collapsing excessively or deforming.

I assumed that it was the repeated impacts that did the damage, but I did wonder if it was an equipment failure or something else.

hornet

6,333 posts

279 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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The Wookie said:
I didn't want to say it but I did think that, although massive, none of those impacts looked unsurviveable, and the car stood up relatively well without collapsing excessively or deforming.

I assumed that it was the repeated impacts that did the damage, but I did wonder if it was an equipment failure or something else.
Reminded me of the Ginetta crash at Oulton a few years ago. Carl Breeze?

I can think of a few recent crashes in Europe that have exhibited equally poor driving standards and questionable track safety, so I don't think it's fair to try and make it a "damn third world motorsport!" thread, which some seem to want to.

the other me

614 posts

182 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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How about the Belgian GP when Mad Davie lost it on a manhole cover on the run down from La Source on the 1st lap. From the camera angle looking up the hill you had to wonder what the guys in the midfield, & back of the field were looking at, or where they thought they were going. . . Oh OK, it was the spray, so . .any difference spray/smoke ? nope, if you can't see where you are going expect the unexpected.

AJS-

15,366 posts

265 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Very similar to Mark Porter's crash at Bathurst a couple of years ago.

Horrible. The whole thing does look very amateurish, when I opened the link I thought it was from the early 80s at first. However I don't think anything much could have saved a crash like that from being very nasty. It appears the other driver is slowing down, but as far as I can see from the video it's a very fast and unsighted part of the circuit,