New Sauber, Red Bull and Toro Rosso launched today
New Sauber, Red Bull and Toro Rosso launched today
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DanDC5

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19,992 posts

196 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Well they haven't been yet but will update with pics as soon as they. I'm intterested to see the Red Bull, hopefully Adrian Newey has come up with a better looking design for the nose than the other teams, hopefully more Mclarenesque than Ferrari.

furtive

4,503 posts

308 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Red Bull's racing advisor, Dr Marko, is quoted as saying that their new car is "not as ugly as the Ferrari."

haha

DanDC5

Original Poster:

19,992 posts

196 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Is it me or is this a Ferrari different clothes?


Mini1275

11,098 posts

211 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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How small are those side pods?! yikes.

Mini1275

11,098 posts

211 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Asterix

24,438 posts

257 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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furtive said:
Red Bull's racing advisor, Dr Marko, is quoted as saying that their new car is "not as ugly as the Ferrari."

haha
Wayne Rooney isn't as ugly as the new Ferrari - he's still fugly though...

RumbleOfThunder

3,721 posts

232 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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I think that Sauber looks great! The nose doesn't seem an issue on it.

GroundedFX

8 posts

181 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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fomb said:
If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.....

Woody

2,189 posts

313 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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RumbleOfThunder said:
I think that Sauber looks great! The nose doesn't seem an issue on it.
Not a bad looking car - but think the fact that the nose is dark helps hide the step abit.

Can't work out why some teams have gone for a 'flat angle' and others have sculpted the area (Caterham & Lotus).

Be intersting to see what Mr Newey has come up with!

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Gosh, the Sauber looks absolutely terrible.



Hopefully it's faster than it looks!

(EDIT: err, a bit late. lol)

paulrockliffe

16,555 posts

256 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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It's going to win in any ironing competition though!

Whitefly Swatter

1,131 posts

228 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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1300 to find out how pretty ugly the red bull is


luke g28

174 posts

188 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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DanDC5 said:
Is it me or is this a Ferrari different clothes?

Correct me if im wrong but the Ferrari nose finishes where it joins the rear wing whereas this has a large overhang. Also the side pods are pretty different. Still pretty fugly though.

As for the sculpted horns / rails are a ploy to reduce the cross sectional area of the nose cone. Bit of a cheeky rule exploit.

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Either Mclaren have got in terribly wrong or very right and we're going to be looking at 1988 season again ( which wouldn't be a bad thing )


DanDC5

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196 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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woof said:
Either Mclaren have got in terribly wrong or very right and we're going to be looking at 1988 season again ( which wouldn't be a bad thing )
The Mclaren nose has always been low compared to the other cars in previous years, with this years rules it seems they haven't had to adapt the height in anyway so haven't really had to change the design. I'm surprised more teams haven't gone for the Mclaren approach to be honest.

sirtyro

1,824 posts

227 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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DanDC5 said:
The Mclaren nose has always been low compared to the other cars in previous years, with this years rules it seems they haven't had to adapt the height in anyway so haven't really had to change the design. I'm surprised more teams haven't gone for the Mclaren approach to be honest.
Do the other teams get more air under the car and this feeds the diffuser better?! Mclaren are obviously trading this airflow for something....so what benefits do they get?

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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luke g28 said:
Correct me if im wrong but the Ferrari nose finishes where it joins the rear wing
You're wrong, very wrong hehe

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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sirtyro said:
Do the other teams get more air under the car and this feeds the diffuser better?! Mclaren are obviously trading this airflow for something....so what benefits do they get?
Lower CoG and better front suspension geometry are the main two benefits. As said elsewhere, Mclaren used the same low chassis/nose philosophy last year when they could have had a high tub AND a high nose (as opposed to high tub/lower nose this year) yet they still had a fast car. The new regulations mean the high nose/tub concept becomes more compromised so I can't see Mclaren losing out, its just that their low chassis design philosophy is more obviously different now that the others have had to drop their noses.

Streps

2,457 posts

195 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Sharp thin nose!

Too bad Sauber didn't paint the whole car in that nice metallic gray
Airbox at least!