No Angel: The Secret Life Of Bernie Ecclestone, Read more:
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heebeegeetee

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30,124 posts

277 months

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Shades of King Lear and his daughters, Could the same fate await Bernie. One can only hope,

Life Saab Itch

37,069 posts

217 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Very one sided.


Interesting about Horner's "holiday" and comments though...

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Now that Berbie has, to some extent, got into bed with Murdoch, is there an incentive for the non--Murdoch press to start digging and flinging mud in his general direction?

Crafty_

14,066 posts

229 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Now that Berbie has, to some extent, got into bed with Murdoch, is there an incentive for the non--Murdoch press to start digging and flinging mud in his general direction?
How exactly has he "got in to bed with Murdoch" Eric ?

From that article it seems Bernie is in fine form. Love the bar bill episode hehe

Far as the media "digging", they'd have to be very good to find something that isn't already known. Besides, what makes you think Bernie will give a toss ?

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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I'm pretty sure Bernie does care what people say about him. He has an army of lawyers in his pay to slap down anyone who starts sniffing around too much.

He will get found out, someday - but it may well be after he dies.

Crafty_

14,066 posts

229 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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What is there to find out ?

I don't think there is much to find out.
Ok, the way SLEC and Bambino are structured is interesting - but its taken this long for the taxman to even take a passing interest, but its not like the guy is murdering kids in their bed or anything.

He just likes making money, more than actually having the money itself I think.


Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Why would Ecclestone talk to Tom Bower after his reported reaction to the Bower book when it first came out? Anyway nothing interesting in that article.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Crafty_ said:
What is there to find out ?

I don't think there is much to find out.
Ok, the way SLEC and Bambino are structured is interesting - but its taken this long for the taxman to even take a passing interest, but its not like the guy is murdering kids in their bed or anything.

He just likes making money, more than actually having the money itself I think.
Last time I looked, tax fraud is usually of interest to tax authorities. Time will tell if BE escapes forver the clutches of HMRC - or some other tax authority.

belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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HMRC cannot get a conviction of Harry Redknapp who is 2% of the man Bernie is, they won't get anybody. 14 years ago I was involved with a company which had an interest in F1 and we found 39 different companies used by Bernie and most of those in Ireland, Eastern Europe and the Carribean. Today unless you have connections in Croatia HMRC wont get anywhere.

rallycross

13,737 posts

266 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Look at the lifestyle his airhead daughters are living - living in
$50m houses with made up ' jobs' it's a disgusting show of wealth.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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rallycross said:
Look at the lifestyle his airhead daughters are living - living in
$50m houses with made up ' jobs' it's a disgusting show of wealth.
Why does success disgust you?

Jerry Can

5,164 posts

252 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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davepoth said:
Why does success disgust you?
are his daughters successful then?

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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belleair302 said:
HMRC cannot get a conviction of Harry Redknapp who is 2% of the man Bernie is, they won't get anybody. 14 years ago I was involved with a company which had an interest in F1 and we found 39 different companies used by Bernie and most of those in Ireland, Eastern Europe and the Carribean. Today unless you have connections in Croatia HMRC wont get anywhere.
We'll see.

It's not just HMRC who might have a case.

DJRC

23,563 posts

265 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Eric Mc said:
belleair302 said:
HMRC cannot get a conviction of Harry Redknapp who is 2% of the man Bernie is, they won't get anybody. 14 years ago I was involved with a company which had an interest in F1 and we found 39 different companies used by Bernie and most of those in Ireland, Eastern Europe and the Carribean. Today unless you have connections in Croatia HMRC wont get anywhere.
We'll see.

It's not just HMRC who might have a case.
See what? By the time anybody builds a coherent case Bernie will be in his 90s or popping his clogs. The taxman in any country are not going to lay an effective hand on him.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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I agree.

I think Bernie will have shuffled off this mortal coil before anyone gets a true understanding of how he operated.

Derek Smith

49,672 posts

277 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Jerry Can said:
are his daughters successful then?
It depends on which point of view you take I suppose. They seem daft enough to believe they have a fulfilling life, which I suppose in essence they must have if that is what they hope for. Some women feel that nirvana is a lot of handbags. Well good on them. They are happy so under their own definition might be successful.

What about from Bernie's point of view? I'm not sure he's overly impressed by them.

I have often wondered how much of his fortune he would have given to be of more normal height. Just a foot taller say. And then there's his hair of course.

The fact remains that his daughters have done nothing to earn the £millions they have at their disposal. At a time when there's 3m unemployed in this country, some of whom, despite what the DM says, must have worked hard throughout their lives, such displays of unearned income might well disgust.

The question that goes through my mind when I see some of these ultra rich people is whether I would swop my life for theirs. Despite the fact that, like most of us I suppose, I'd love a bit more money, the exercise normally stops me being jealous. Where the rich people seem to have cracked it, have a good life and are productive, I still don't feel jealous. The thought that goes through my mind is 'good on you, mate. Well done.'

With his daughters, the question is whether I would swop my two for his. That is a beneficial intellectual exercise as it makes me laugh and, further, appreciate how lucky I am.

Successful is easy to prove. They must have tried something and succeeded, i.e. not been given something, not had it handed to them on a plate, not got to some position purely because of whom their father is. The Queen got to here position through little effort yet I feel has been successful because of the way she had performed a difficult role.

So what have these women tried? What effort have they had to make?

rallycross

13,737 posts

266 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/15/bernie-ecclesto...

She has been very successful at spending the money BCE has made out of F1.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063771/Ta...

(OK its from the dailyfail so it may be somewhat exaggerated things like a £1million bath tub!)

crofty1984

17,064 posts

233 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Jerry Can said:
davepoth said:
Why does success disgust you?
are his daughters successful then?
I can see his point. Someone works hard, makes some clever decisions, etc and profits from that I not only don't mind, but would applaud.

It's the wanton spending of daddy's money that sticks in the throat a bit. My dad would happily buy me some car parts, but I'd rather buy them myself and have him help me fit them.

DJRC

23,563 posts

265 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Are we now attacking Bernie because his daughters are bimbos?

Jeesh.

If I was given several/lots of millions on a plate, would I behave like a good little middle class, middle English, respectable boy, mindful of blah blah blah?

Like fk I would. Sign me up for the shallow lazy bum 5* hotel life!