Christian horner bealing on
Christian horner bealing on
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Some Gump

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13,018 posts

215 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98565

So, for the last few years, Horner has had a clever Newey thing that gives an advantage, whilst not being in the spirit of the rules. Flexible wings. Pivoting floors. All that good stuff. He acts all above it and suuggests that others are just jealous.

Now, the boot is on the other foot, and Brawn's design team have a clever idea that Red Bull didn't. Why is he bealing on that much? The Merc isn't even competitive, and Newey just won't let it lie.

So hope they come 2nd this year, would make a better season.

LY99

154 posts

217 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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He just want final clarification thats its legal before they kick off a massive developemnt project of their own. I expect the amount of resources and cost it could consume would be massive and its difficult to package within the existing car.

If it gets banned then theres no need and the resources can be used in other areas which lets face it they need to get back to McLaren pace.




Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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"Bealing" - that's a new word to me.

Can someone explain it to me?

fatboy69

9,424 posts

216 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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It strikes me that Mr Horner, with assistance from Mr Vettell, is becoming a bit of a sore loser. Maybe he assured the Red Bull management that a third straight title would be a walk in the park & now that it has become apparent that it won't be he doesn't like it.

He is miffed that someone else has managed to find a loop-hole in the rules & he wants it stopped - until of course RB come up with a solution which other teams won't like after which he will turn round & tell them that it is in the spirit of the rules blah blah blah.

So Mr Horner, shut up, stop complaining & get on with it.

Sore loser!!!

McHaggis

59,264 posts

184 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Northern phrase meaning crying. I used to hear it at school (Yorkshire) but that was some years ago...

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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LY99 said:
He just want final clarification thats its legal before they kick off a massive developemnt project of their own. I expect the amount of resources and cost it could consume would be massive and its difficult to package within the existing car.

If it gets banned then theres no need and the resources can be used in other areas which lets face it they need to get back to McLaren pace.
It's been confirmed twice by Charlie Whiting, what more is he looking for?

As OP said, Merc aren't overly competitive in race trim.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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McHaggis said:
Northern phrase meaning crying. I used to hear it at school (Yorkshire) but that was some years ago...
Thanks

Obviously related to "bleating".

Life Saab Itch

37,069 posts

217 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Dubai said:
It's been confirmed twice by Charlie Whiting, what more is he looking for?
Just like the F-duct and the double diffuser before it. All clarified, all ok.


Quit whinging. Get working.

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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McHaggis said:
Northern phrase meaning crying. I used to hear it at school (Yorkshire) but that was some years ago...
Never heard it on the correct side of the Pennines (18 years in Lancaster), but then those of the White Rose have always been a bit weird.

McHaggis

59,264 posts

184 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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ewenm said:
Never heard it on the correct side of the Pennines (18 years in Lancaster), but then those of the White Rose have always been a bit weird.
Well you know what they say in Yorkshire... "red sky at night... Lancashire is on fire". wink

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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McHaggis said:
Well you know what they say in Yorkshire... "red sky at night... Lancashire is on fire". wink
hehe

Got to stay warm somehow!

Agoogy

7,274 posts

277 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Horner, Lotus and 3 other teams apparently are not seeking clarification...Whiting has said it's legal twice now...
No clarification is needed, Horner et al are now saying it is not legal and want it stopped...poor loves don't like having to compete for a living...hehe

Whiting is having a 3rd look at it now...quite why he has to do that is beyond me but even IF he says it's legal again...the teams can have another appeal/strop when in China....

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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he should probably be more worried about mclaren. sadly i think the ferrari result was a fluke. not sadly because i like them, but it does make it a little more interesting smile

majordad

3,630 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Eric , I imagine the fella from Eastenders ( Beal ?) and the word seems to convey an image of a man moaning in my mind.

HTH

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Don't watch Eastenders so I wouldn't know who you are referring to.

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Urban dictionary link, for those unable to Google - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bea...

paulrockliffe

16,555 posts

256 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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ewenm said:
McHaggis said:
Northern phrase meaning crying. I used to hear it at school (Yorkshire) but that was some years ago...
Never heard it on the correct side of the Pennines (18 years in Lancaster), but then those of the White Rose have always been a bit weird.
Used at school in Cumbria a lot, in fact we had a friend affectionately names Ratchy Bealer as he cried a lot.

37chevy

3,280 posts

185 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Funny how Horner got really peeved when Mclaren et al were complaining about the flexible wings and just told them to get on with it......umm pot, kettle, black! I for one am quite enjoying see them squirm a little bit!

eps

7,088 posts

298 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Some Gump said:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98565

So, for the last few years, Horner has had a clever Newey thing that gives an advantage, whilst not being in the spirit of the rules. Flexible wings. Pivoting floors. All that good stuff. He acts all above it and suuggests that others are just jealous.

Now, the boot is on the other foot, and Brawn's design team have a clever idea that Red Bull didn't. Why is he bealing on that much? The Merc isn't even competitive, and Newey just won't let it lie.

So hope they come 2nd this year, would make a better season.
I don't agree. The flexi wing is within the regs. It is permissible to flex so much if a weight is placed upon it. Did it meet that constraint? Yes, so legal.

The use of the DRS as an enabler to allow an aero mechanism, other than the wing it self to operate would seem to be against the regs of not allowing driver controlled aero devices. As it is, it's not working that well, as it seems to unbalance the car in certain situations so I think the others may well go down a similar route, but possibly improve on it, if it is permitted. The best thing would be to ban it, imho. It's a great idea though and it's concept should be investigated in road cars, etc..

I am not a RBR fan btw! Just stating how I see the difference between those two points.

realjv

1,193 posts

195 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Why keep complaining? Well this is F1 and it seems to me that how you win long ago stopped mattering to many just so long as you do win. Oh and protesting someone else's car is a good way of distracting attention from some of the grey areas you might be exploiting.

Edited by realjv on Tuesday 3rd April 12:38