How do you get a race series recognised?

[johnhenry]

Morning all

How do you go about organising a race/race series?

Does it need to be approved by the MSA? or another body? in this case -

Theres stuff like scruitineering?
Safety Standard?

or

can you just organise it yourself with your own safety/spec/legislation?

Sounds silly but im just interested in the idea of it

cheers
John

[TheEnd]

You'd want to start with getting involved with a series organiser, for example http://www.750mc.co.uk/

You'd need to have your rules set out, done to MSA regs, and you'd also need something decent, with enough cars in it.

They'll have a series of circuits booked for events, with maybe 12-16 races each meet, usually 2 of each series.
To start with, you'll probably spend a year tag teaming in another series until it'll be big enough to have a full grid and a decent event in its own right.

You'll find these organisers at any race meet. There will usually be one company that manages the lot, so track down any event and find out who's controlling it, and if you can squeeze in a race series too.

[Dave Brand]

From the Blue Book:

"MSA approval for the organisation of an event
(except authorised Speed Records or as specified in
D.5) is reserved for those motor clubs recognised by
the MSA as ‘Registered to organise Competitions’
(Recognised Clubs), which have complied with the
requirements regarding Status and Fixture List and
must be in membership of an MSA recognised
Regional Association."

So, to organise a race you must find a club to work with; if you want to run a Series or a Championship it has to be registered as such with the MSA.

[37chevy]

Dave Brand said:

From the Blue Book:

"MSA approval for the organisation of an event
(except authorised Speed Records or as specified in
D.5) is reserved for those motor clubs recognised by
the MSA as ‘Registered to organise Competitions’
(Recognised Clubs), which have complied with the
requirements regarding Status and Fixture List and
must be in membership of an MSA recognised
Regional Association."

So, to organise a race you must find a club to work with; if you want to run a Series or a Championship it has to be registered as such with the MSA.

But you can run it as a non MSA championship like the smart car championship last year because it didn't have enough cars if I remember correctly

[Graham]

37chevy said:

But you can run it as a non MSA championship like the smart car championship last year because it didn't have enough cars if I remember correctly

You still need an msa recognised club to back your series, and the msa now requireyou to register your series regulations, with a suitable fee.

As a series your not allowed to have points and each race is considered a one off.

I organised a race at Spa last year and that was interesting, and bascally consiste3d of me sorting the regulations with msa etc and then agreeing with the event organiser how many minutesof track time I wanted to buy... gets quite prcey at 2-300 quid per minute when you want 30 min qually and a one hour race, I then needed to add the cost of a couple of msa officials ontop.

If your looking to run a series in the uk, you'll need to convince someone like msv,brscc,barc,750mc, MGoc,amoc etc that your series will cover its costs, and generally they will then take the risk and the profit if there is any on the entries... If your just buying thetrack time yourself its simpler but muchmore risk..

[chevronb37]

Last week's Autosport featured an interview with the MSA which actually covered a bit of this stuff in reasonable detail. Worth hunting out.

[Marc W]

37chevy said:

But you can run it as a non MSA championship like the smart car championship last year because it didn't have enough cars if I remember correctly

It was still fully recognised by the MSA but it was as a series rather than a championship. There are several around that do this and some by choice never become championships.