Maldonado: hard, fair racer or impetuous danger?
Maldonado: hard, fair racer or impetuous danger?

Poll: Maldonado: hard, fair racer or impetuous danger?

Total Members Polled: 344

He's just a hard racer that never gives up: 11%
He's a danger & needs banning immediately: 37%
He needs a ticking off, but no more than that: 51%
He's just unlucky & it's never his fault: 0%
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schmalex

Original Poster:

13,616 posts

232 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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With the other drivers seemingly concerned about PM's conduct, what does the sage collective on PH think about his driving style this season?

Marf

22,907 posts

267 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Gaz. said:
Should never have been granted a super licence after breaking that marshall's leg in Monaco 2005, for which he received a lifetime ban (since overturned) from the principality.
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/pastor-maldonado/

He broke the guy's back, not his leg.

woof

8,456 posts

303 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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He is a dangerous driver. He's got a real problem with his aggression and quite frankly should of gotten a race ban for driving into Perez. Let's not forget he did the same thing to Lewis in Spa last year.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

254 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Seems to be going through a bit of a bad patch, like that fella last year.

CivicMan

2,211 posts

227 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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woof said:
He is a dangerous driver. He's got a real problem with his aggression and quite frankly should of gotten a race ban for driving into Perez. Let's not forget he did the same thing to Lewis in Spa last year.
Agreed.

Crafty_

13,927 posts

226 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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I think this particular incident was less clear, but yeah the guy has issues.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

281 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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I think he is the latest hate figure for the public. I'm sure Massa will be glad, as it takes any hatred from being heaped onto him.

Maldonado was wrong at Spa last year, and was punished. He was also punished for the last race. Today's I cogent was a simple racing I cident. He had the inside, and the racing line, and it was simply a case of a twitchy car that meant he collided with Perez. There was no maliciousness, or deliberate intent involved. It wasn't a dangerous crash, so I think folks are really going to town over this for no reason. Talks of bans, etc. is ridiculous, and talk of a ban for the collision today is frankly absurd.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

281 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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CivicMan said:
woof said:
He is a dangerous driver. He's got a real problem with his aggression and quite frankly should of gotten a race ban for driving into Perez. Let's not forget he did the same thing to Lewis in Spa last year.
Agreed.
Seriously? A race ban for the collision with Perez? On what grounds?

another 3 points

1,015 posts

223 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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TheHeretic said:
CivicMan said:
woof said:
He is a dangerous driver. He's got a real problem with his aggression and quite frankly should of gotten a race ban for driving into Perez. Let's not forget he did the same thing to Lewis in Spa last year.
Agreed.
Seriously? A race ban for the collision with Perez? On what grounds?
Chance to try out new career in Banger Racing.

skinny

5,269 posts

261 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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TheHeretic said:
CivicMan said:
woof said:
He is a dangerous driver. He's got a real problem with his aggression and quite frankly should of gotten a race ban for driving into Perez. Let's not forget he did the same thing to Lewis in Spa last year.
Agreed.
Seriously? A race ban for the collision with Perez? On what grounds?
don't forget monaco this year either... (with perez again)

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

281 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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skinny said:
don't forget monaco this year either... (with perez again)
I don't think that was a big deal, to be honest. LooLed like he misjudged the rear of the car. Either way, there were plenty of collisions last year, many ridiculous, but as I said, it seems Mal is the hate figure of the moment. It seems that the public require someone to dispise. It was Massa, now it is Mal.

AlpineWhite

2,164 posts

221 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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I think they're talking about Monaco, regarding Perez.

PM shouldn't hold a superlicense, in my opinion. Perhaps his financial, er, contribution, to Williams is substantial enough to curry favour with the powers that be. (yes, tin hat is well and truly on )

Fonz

361 posts

210 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Today was a racing incident. No more.

Fonz

361 posts

210 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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AlpineWhite said:
PM shouldn't hold a superlicense, in my opinion. Perhaps his financial, er, contribution, to Williams is substantial enough to curry favour with the powers that be. (yes, tin hat is well and truly on )
Not the first time someone has helped finance the show. It's been going on for years. As for deliberately running into an opponent he is not the only one that is currently in F1 with that offence on his record. Not that this was deliberate today, just making a small mistake on cold tyres.

woof

8,456 posts

303 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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TheHeretic said:
CivicMan said:
woof said:
He is a dangerous driver. He's got a real problem with his aggression and quite frankly should of gotten a race ban for driving into Perez. Let's not forget he did the same thing to Lewis in Spa last year.
Agreed.
Seriously? A race ban for the collision with Perez? On what grounds?
Sorry - when he drove into Perez in Monaco

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

281 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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PW said:
He definitely needs a hefty penalty.

He keeps getting away with it - Spa last year, Moncao this year were utterly unacceptable IMHO. I've no doubt he'll do it again either.
Well, of Valencia was anything to go by, at Monaco he was the car ahead, and was perfectly able to take his racing line, (that was the reason given that Hamilton squeezed Maldonado off circuit), so of we are being consistent, what did Mal do wrong then?

Maldonado needed at least a race ban for the Spa incident, but I think a lot of other incidents are made a meal of by a certain group of fans. He isn't the first driver to be involved a lot in incidents, and he won't be the last.

woof

8,456 posts

303 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Just tap in to google Maldonado crash - and see how many incidents he's had !

Every seen this one ? World Series by Renault
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt5nt7IdyPs

Amazing that he didn't kill anyone

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

281 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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woof said:
Just tap in to google Maldonado crash - and see how many incidents he's had !

Every seen this one ? World Series by Renault
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt5nt7IdyPs

Amazing that he didn't kill anyone
Comes over a crest of a hill, and discovers a car in the way, and loses control trying to avoid. It's a bad crash, but I don't think he was going any faster than anyone else, he just had the misfortune of a car directly in his path after a blind crest.

Fonz

361 posts

210 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Red flag is already out and the yellow flag is at the top of the crest. No excuses.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

212 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Today was quite clearly a racing incident where he lost the back end while defending his position and was just unlucky.

Valencia he should have rejoined the track in a safer manner and waited for the next chance to pass a struggling Hamilton.

Monaco and Spa were completely different though and hitting someone on purpose is worthy of a ban IMO.

I do seem to remember that in the year he won the GP2 championship he was great at the races he lead from the front, but had quite a few incidents when getting through the pack.