Brands Hatch Gp guide
Brands Hatch Gp guide
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wadsapple

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3,346 posts

216 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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HI Dave,

Beens as you sent good luck with your last track guide of Mallory Park biggrin Can you do me one for the Grand Prix Circuit at Brands Hatch please.

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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I practising on the playstation !! I'll have to dig out the autosport guide from the back of the truck somewhere I think thats got brands gp in it

pete.reeve

516 posts

312 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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If you two need help on the day let me know ie fuel filler-pitwall-tyre kicker.

Pete

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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pete.reeve said:
If you two need help on the day let me know ie fuel filler-pitwall-tyre kicker.

Pete
defiantly any help greatly received.. especially as car in bits at the moment with the engine spread across 4 counties !! hopefully starting to go back together on friday if we can get all the machining done.

we will need to refuel at least once, depending how much we can fuel at each stop as we will need to add 60 litres or so to make the hour. refueling needs full fireproof kit with balaclava and goggles or helmet.

see you there ( hopefully)

G

wadsapple

Original Poster:

3,346 posts

216 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Hi Pete,

Yes as G says your help would be good with both cars,we have two Mechanic's and one general helper aka peter High a mate of mine who does a lot of trackdays so knows his way round paddocks on the Crowthorne side but with two cars going there will be jobs needing your imput i'm sure.Certainly my car will be in more than Grahams for fuel as at the last calculation mine was using 2 lts a minute or a tad more.We are restricted to 40 lts refuel at a pit stop.Unlike G i have not had 5 mins to work out how many fuel stops we need.Like Graham though my car is minus ECU, engine wireing loom,Throttle body & induction,clutch,bell houseing,gearbox,gearbox mounting plate,propshaft U Jays,Power steering ECU,Toneuo cover,dash board,windscreen,diff and mountings,Oh and two very leaky dry break refueling churns as of tonight.So no panic there then.If you want in, let us know ,between us we should have a pit ticket for you.

450Nick

4,027 posts

241 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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When is this again?? I may be able to come down and lend a hand

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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got a bit of bother with the 20 litre tuff jug at the moment as well, it just wont fit under the roll cage argh.. need to see if i can find some 10 litre jugs... so that might make a difference to our fuel strategy

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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450Nick said:
When is this again?? I may be able to come down and lend a hand
16th sept week sunday!!

tbdgriff500

1,647 posts

232 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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i am free that weekend so can also help if needed

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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I also still need to scrounge some list 1 b tyres as well hehe

pete.reeve

516 posts

312 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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No probs. I can do the refueling or whatever is required. A pit pass would be good so I can bring my van in with my kit.
see you there


450Nick

4,027 posts

241 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Cool ok I should be ok to come down and help out!

teamHOLDENracing

5,105 posts

296 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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wadsapple said:
...at the last calculation mine was using 2 lts a minute or a tad more.
Perry - you're using an LS3? I have the LS376/480 (LS3 with factory hot cam) - we use nothing like the fuel you do. About half in fact!!! Have you had it mapped recently - it must be running incredibly rich?

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Iirc when I ran the Mosler in the 24 it was using about 2.3 litres a lap at Silverstone gp and around 1.51 lap time out of an ls7

So if your using almost twice that you have a problem, and probably bore washing! Do you monitor or run a lambda gauge? If found one invaluable to prevent engine damage

itsallyellow

3,875 posts

249 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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I have to say I'm always shocked at our fuel usage!

We're between 0.5-0.7 litres per minute. I'm convinced it should use more so always massively over fuel it!!

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Perry are you using juff Jugs to refuel ? the 20l itre one will not fit my car it fouls on the roll cage grrr, just measuring up some 10 litre tuff jugs to see if they fit !!

wadsapple

Original Poster:

3,346 posts

216 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Hi G,

I,m in Portugal on holiday so no idea what really is going on with the car.I am using dry break on the car, although as of tuesday night, they were leaking and i may not be able to use the dump churns as planned.i have a sunaco jug but i beleive they have to be altered according to the regs for the event and Andy R has a jug aswell so those two would be a possibility if i can get my fuel cap changed.40lts is max per pit stop.Andy Holden yes my car is same spec as yours although i have a tottally different take on the exhaust system than you that i beleive is the dog's ......and has added greatly to the performance we recon,but thank you for the advise you gave me at the time a couple of years ago when the exhaust was been designed.weather that has added to petrol comsumption i don't know.my car is really thirsty but it is been upgraded to Emerald 6 since the issues of Silvestone so we will be mapping without lambda,s.I leave all that upto Powercrazy Steve who maps all my cars.It was on Lambda's so was not running rich we have investigated any leaks but found none ( given the problems i have had with the car i insisted that the leak test was done by naked flame.)I am relying on you G for a flame blanket and Andy R has a 9lt powder extinquisher we can use for refueling.I am fitting an earth lead to ground in case car needs earthing as it did at Spa.we are using a battery cable stripped and hanging down to drag on floor.I,ll hopfully get an update over weekend how the car is progressing and let you know where i'm at.

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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cool, 2 1mx1m fire blankets on order so will have plenty !!

fire ex thats good saves me buying one..

regs on refueling

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3.9 Refueling. – may only be carried out by either of the following two methods.
a) Cars fitted with ‘Dry break’ systems
b) Cars fitted with conventional fillers using Anglo American Tuff Jug or similar (i.e. with a pressure operated 'shut off' valve)

NO OTHER METHODS ARE PERMITTED and, for the avoidance of doubt, 'Jerry cans and funnels' are STRICTLY prohibited. All refueling equipment will be subject to scrutineering.

Note: Cars adopting Option b) above are advised that appropriate modifications may have to be made to allow the shut off valve of the refueling jug to operate satisfactorily. Fuel filler caps must be 'leakproof' and breather pipes must be secured.

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I think modifications relate to making sure the filler is vertical so that the jug goes in properly..

Edited by Graham on Thursday 6th September 14:03

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

242 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Let me know if you need another helper.

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Refueling update.

We can use the polarn pump as an option, although it requires refueling in a special area in the assembly area, so thats a fall back option.

I have also confirmed we do need an earthing point

G