Bernie: "...as long as we don't lose Ferrari."

[Jimbo.]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20717038

Because that'll make the other teams feel valued!

[EDLT]

Clearly that means he wants more teams.

[davepoth]

I think that Marussia and Caterham will be a lot closer next year. Bearing in mind that they didn't have KERS they were getting within half a second of teams like Toro Rosso at some races, so I think they'll be on the edge of competitiveness.

[anonymous-user]

Caterham had KERS - Marussia did really well in that case

[Mr_Thyroid]

And Marussia use the crummy Coswoth engine that everyone else dumped last year.

[Richard-G]

Mr_Thyroid said:

And Marussia use the crummy Coswoth engine that everyone else dumped last year.

Taking everything into account their car is probably faster than a toro rosso, which makes caterhams constant bleating about how they deserve 10th place all the more annoying.

[iva cosworth]

Why does he make comments like that ?

Tell you what,let's just have the good teams Mclaren,Ferrari and Red Bull.

That'll be much cheaper to transport around the globe for 25 races that BE would REALLY like

[zac510]

iva cosworth said:

Why does he make comments like that ?

Just to annoy you.

[iva cosworth]

zac510 said:

iva cosworth said:

Why does he make comments like that ?

Just to annoy you.

Only a litle

He really should give it up but when Luca Di Montezemelo said he is too old at 82yo,Bernie retorts

[today in fact]with ,it was alright a few years ago when i dealt with an 88yo name of Enzo

[realjv]

This is worth a read
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2012/12/13/hmmm-10-...

The logic for not having 11 teams seems to be that the 11th costs the Formula One group money, because it is not paid for from the prize fund, but rather directly from the Commercial Rights Holder’s share on the take

[woof]

realjv said:

This is worth a read
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2012/12/13/hmmm-10-...

The logic for not having 11 teams seems to be that the 11th costs the Formula One group money, because it is not paid for from the prize fund, but rather directly from the Commercial Rights Holder’s share on the take

Joe Saward legend - always talks sense

"The British aristocracy has been well-served over the years by the concept of always having “an heir and a spare” just in case they are needed."

[DanielSan]

Bernie being the genius he always has been then, F1 not in the news at the moment with it being the closed season and no big driver announcements to talk about, so he says something to get the sport back in the headlines.

[Derek Smith]

DanielSan said:

Bernie being the genius he always has been then, F1 not in the news at the moment with it being the closed season and no big driver announcements to talk about, so he says something to get the sport back in the headlines.

Ecclestone, whose interest in F1 revolves around money first, second and always, wants to sell his interest in it. Saying that losing a team is a disaster due to a lack of stepping stones to the pinnacle, as in the past to an extent, would not push the price up. Suggesting that the sport would benefit from losing even more teams is a sales pitch.

The problem is not the number of teams racing but the lack of progression. No one learns the necessary skills of running an F1 team by doing the same sort of thing in lower formulae.

F1 has managed before with far fewer teams than we'll have next season. However, the more competitive teams, the more places for talented drivers, the higher the standards.

To paraphrase Ecclestone: I've managed, by clever management, to lower the costs of F1 so that will push up the price of the rights. And if you want to push up profits you can get rid of another team or two. No problem.

More spins than the Austin GP practice.

[Life Saab Itch]

For starters, fk Ferrari. F1 would be better off without one team who thinks they are bigger than the sport.


second of all, if he wants the stepping stone, make F2 the stepping stone it should have.been.

Control (world) engine formula, free chassis formula, fixed tyre formula.


Allow teams to learn to develop the chassis and aero package of a car before they can step up to F1. maybe by buying a top team's year old chassis for the first season.


common sense, not in the FIA/BernieWorld.

[coppice]

The thing is for some of us Ferrari are bigger than the sport ;and their record in it is unparalleled.Love them or hate them , they are the most charismatic and glamorous car maker in the world. Emotional judgement? Of course- I saw my first Ferrari in the late 60s- a 275GTB - and it made everything elsein grimy West Riding look mundane. My first sight of a GP car was a 1971 312B screaming through Becketts and I fell in love.Theatrical, bend the rules a bit , flawed - they are guilty of all that but somehow the old cavallino rampante will always be the one. Just a shame that footballers buy them...

[Life Saab Itch]

coppice said:

The thing is for some of us Ferrari are bigger than the sport ;and their record in it is unparalleled.Love them or hate them , they are the most charismatic and glamorous car maker in the world. Emotional judgement? Of course- I saw my first Ferrari in the late 60s- a 275GTB - and it made everything elsein grimy West Riding look mundane. My first sight of a GP car was a 1971 312B screaming through Becketts and I fell in love.Theatrical, bend the rules a bit , flawed - they are guilty of all that but somehow the old cavallino rampante will always be the one. Just a shame that footballers buy them...

The myth is greater than the beast.

[anonymous-user]

I've always liked the old ferrari road cars, the 275gtb 4 cam a big favourite, but i can take or leave the racing team. They just arent the same without the flat 12/ vee 12 engines.

[RichB]

Ferrari are an essential ingredient in F1 - I would not want to see them drop out (not that there's the remotest possibility) and that's as someone who is completely ambivalent to them as road cars.

[thunderbelmont]

I think the dementia is kicking in....

[Scuffers]

Life Saab Itch said:

coppice said:

The thing is for some of us Ferrari are bigger than the sport ;and their record in it is unparalleled.Love them or hate them , they are the most charismatic and glamorous car maker in the world. Emotional judgement? Of course- I saw my first Ferrari in the late 60s- a 275GTB - and it made everything elsein grimy West Riding look mundane. My first sight of a GP car was a 1971 312B screaming through Becketts and I fell in love.Theatrical, bend the rules a bit , flawed - they are guilty of all that but somehow the old cavallino rampante will always be the one. Just a shame that footballers buy them...

The myth is greater than the beast.

Exactly, i would love to understand the logic behind this thinking...