Restrictions on Silverstone Circuit?
Restrictions on Silverstone Circuit?
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motoloco

Original Poster:

32 posts

194 months

Monday 17th December 2012
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Brands Hatch and Croft are just two circuits that have had their activities affected by local residents complaints. Soon it could be Silverstone's turn.

Recently South Northants Council turned down an application for 220 houses on protected land next to the A43, very close to the circuit. The developers have appealed this decision and if they are successful new residents would be in the firing line for circuit noise and potentially likely to complain.

It only needs one complaint and the old adage of "the circuit was there first" carries no weight.

We are fortunate in the UK to be well served by race tracks, but they are under gradual attack. If this concerns you you can contact Eric Pickles MP (who will make the final decision on this development) and tell him your thoughts.

And no, I have no connection with Silverstone Circuit, but I do like motor sport!

scubiedoo

177 posts

240 months

Monday 17th December 2012
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Its not all gloom and doom, especially in the light of the court of appeals ruling on Mildenhall stadium earlier this year.
BBC story here

speedtwelve

3,546 posts

302 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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Imagine if the NIMBY couple in the story above had moved to Mildenhall when there were still a pair of SR-71s based there...

2fast748

1,271 posts

224 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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I always thought Silverstone were making a rod for their own back when they talked about selling off land for housing development.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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motoloco said:
the old adage of "the circuit was there first" carries no weight.
Which is a shame because, IMO, it's the only argument that matters.

Or is it?

What if you moved in next to a quiet local track used a handfull of times a year to race unmodded road cars (i.e. full exhausts, so not too loud.) Then over time they held more and more events, and they increased not only the frequency but also the type of cars to full on racers with loud exhausts. What if they then started doing endurance events all summer long.

Not all tracks are equal, and the same track may not be equal over time. In the above example would it be unreasonable to complain that the noise was much worse than when you moved in?

How about if you move in next to a countryside pub which plays no music and closes at 11pm. And then it's taken over and converted into a heavy metal pub (?) which is open and loud 24/7. Is it your fault for moving next to a quiet country pub, and you should foresee that it might evolve? Or is it the operators fault for changing the mode of operation substantially?

RB Will

10,821 posts

269 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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Just thinking doesnt Silverstone have the F1 contact for the next 10+ years? If someone built houses and then the residents complained about the noise/ traffic etc and wanted to get the F1 banned would they have to pay the presumably millions to get Silverstone out of the contract?

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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RB Will said:
Just thinking doesnt Silverstone have the F1 contact for the next 10+ years? If someone built houses and then the residents complained about the noise/ traffic etc and wanted to get the F1 banned would they have to pay the presumably millions to get Silverstone out of the contract?
No, it wouldn't work like that.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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2fast748 said:
I always thought Silverstone were making a rod for their own back when they talked about selling off land for housing development.
I don't understand why when this stuff is done, they don't put a binding covenant on the land that no matter what its future use is, nobody can complain about the noise.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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Scuffers said:
2fast748 said:
I always thought Silverstone were making a rod for their own back when they talked about selling off land for housing development.
I don't understand why when this stuff is done, they don't put a binding covenant on the land that no matter what its future use is, nobody can complain about the noise.
Per my example above, what if 'the noise' increases substantially after they moved in?

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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mrmr96 said:
Per my example above, what if 'the noise' increases substantially after they moved in?
id say it should still have been forseeable that as the circuit is there and already exists then the usage may increase. in the same way as it may go down. the current noise level shouldnt be taken as a maximum, the maximum should be noise 24/7 !!!


same with any factory etc. I love the way peopl who move to the country they complain the farmers put poly tunnels up and spoil their view?

a farm is essentially an industrial process so you should expect farmers to use what ever process is most effective.





lord summerisle

8,173 posts

254 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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is there much more that can go on at Silverstone? races most weekends during the season, testing/experience days/track days when there isn't racing. plus 24hr racing once s year or so.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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lord summerisle said:
is there much more that can go on at Silverstone? races most weekends during the season, testing/experience days/track days when there isn't racing. plus 24hr racing once s year or so.
last 24h had more black flag's than you can shake a stick at.

jurbie

2,440 posts

230 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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There will be no 24 hour event in 2013.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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jurbie said:
There will be no 24 hour event in 2013.
And how sad is that?

Great Dane

2,897 posts

195 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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jurbie said:
There will be no 24 hour event in 2013.
noise restrictions were severe this year... no 24 h race next year - money troubles by britcar

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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jurbie said:
There will be no 24 hour event in 2013.
Nothing to do with restrictions by Silverstone though.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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tux said:
jurbie said:
There will be no 24 hour event in 2013.
Nothing to do with restrictions by Silverstone though.
Not so sure about that, how many people pulled their interest when they ran the risk of being pulled for noise?

Entering a 24h race costs huge money these days, committing to this with the very real risk of having your run ruined but the noise police has to factor in the decision process.

Much easier now to put the budget together for dubia or the like, with much less risk etc.

Another nail in the coffin of UK motorsport - I do wish MSA would talk more action on this stuff and stop pandering to the green agenda.