Team Holden Sagaris for sale
Team Holden Sagaris for sale
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jimed

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1,508 posts

235 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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I see on the general forum that someone has noted that Andy has got the sagaris for sale - sorry to hear that - so is he still racing or dropped out for some reason. Sounds like a lot of car for someone.
Jim

tbdgriff500

1,647 posts

232 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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that is exceptional value for money @ 50k, shame i am not in that league,
Andy will you take a tuscan race car ,a griff, a wife and 3 kids + dog and 2 cats as payment, cheers Tim.biggrin

teamHOLDENracing

5,105 posts

296 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Compared to the cost of building it, or the costs of buying something as quick, yes it is a bargain (even with the VAT that needs to be added). You'd need a very recent/current GT3 car to beat it and those are expensive to buy and hugely expensive to run.

I'm considering options at the moment. I still intend racing, but don't want to continue to commit as much money to racing each year as I have been doing. Whether that is doing some lower profile stuff in the Sagaris or something else entirely we'll have to see.

shapeshifter

1,181 posts

251 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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I know exactly what you need Andy!

YRRunner

1,652 posts

245 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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shapeshifter said:
I know exactly what you need Andy!
Far too pretty for Andy.... And not hairy arsed enough wink

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Andy I think Peter Hunter had a couple of cheap tasmins for sale...

darren no 7

558 posts

277 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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As I have built one and driven this that is a very cheap car someone should grab a bargain

Edited by darren no 7 on Thursday 14th February 17:57

cwin

961 posts

248 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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darren no 7 said:
As I have built one and driven this that is a very cheap car someone should grab a bargain

Edited by darren no 7 on Thursday 14th February 17:57
Same here its a cracking car with all or most of the development done, that in it's self is worth 15K +

Good luck with the sale Andy..

bill tvr

359 posts

207 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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tbdgriff500 said:
that is exceptional value for money @ 50k, shame i am not in that league,
Andy will you take a tuscan race car ,a griff, a wife and 3 kids + dog and 2 cats as payment, cheers Tim.biggrin
Tim....my God how can you be so heartless ....................
swopping your Dog in for a race car

grumpy bear

634 posts

241 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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bill tvr said:
Tim....my God how can you be so heartless ....................
swopping your Dog in for a race car
I was thinking similar..

Keep the cats so you have someone to listen to you when you go on and on about how gorgeous the car is.biggrin

Guillotine

5,516 posts

293 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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...always keep the pussies.

jimed

Original Poster:

1,508 posts

235 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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I can't see Andy's Sagaris for sale anywhere - (could be looking in the wrong place though ...) so I was wondering what the current position is?
Jim

NTEL

5,051 posts

269 months

Guillotine

5,516 posts

293 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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Still for sale

Still a bargain

YRRunner

1,652 posts

245 months

Thursday 28th March 2013
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Guillotine said:
Still for sale

Still a bargain
Still £10k worth of VAT grumpy

GlynnsportRacing

306 posts

259 months

Thursday 28th March 2013
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YRRunner said:
Still £10k worth of VAT grumpy

Even with the vat added on, Andy's Sagaris is worth a lot more than £60k. I know what it costs to build these awesome beasts and this is definitely a bargain! Not sure why he'd want to sell it at that price quite honestly and it'll be a shame if he's not on the grid with us again. Let's hope a fellow enthusiast snaps it up and comes out to play.
Steve

YRRunner

1,652 posts

245 months

Thursday 28th March 2013
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I'm not disputing the fact that the car is worth much more than the asking price (even with the VAT), I just feel nauseous at the thought of anybody having to give the C&E that amount of money without being able to claim it back. It would have to be a motor racing related VAT registered business in order to claim a refund, not just any VAT registered entity. Any future sale will also incur VAT for the cars entire lifetime!

GlynnsportRacing

306 posts

259 months

Thursday 28th March 2013
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YRRunner said:
I'm not disputing the fact that the car is worth much more than the asking price (even with the VAT), I just feel nauseous at the thought of anybody having to give the C&E that amount of money without being able to claim it back. It would have to be a motor racing related VAT registered business in order to claim a refund, not just any VAT registered entity. Any future sale will also incur VAT for the cars entire lifetime!
Yep, sadly that's a fact and there's not a lot anyone can do about the vat except as you say via a motorsport business! Still, a hell of lot of car for the money.

If a non vat registered individual bought it (Andy obviously has to pay the vat element to C&E on sale), how could the new owner remit vat to C&E when they come to sell it on again - don't think it applies at that point does it?

cwin

961 posts

248 months

Thursday 28th March 2013
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GlynnsportRacing said:
Yep, sadly that's a fact and there's not a lot anyone can do about the vat except as you say via a motorsport business! Still, a hell of lot of car for the money.

If a non vat registered individual bought it (Andy obviously has to pay the vat element to C&E on sale), how could the new owner remit vat to C&E when they come to sell it on again - don't think it applies at that point does it?
No, once the vat has been paid (and not reclaimed ) it won't be subject to vat on the resale

Edited by cwin on Thursday 28th March 16:21

GlynnsportRacing

306 posts

259 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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cwin said:
No, once the vat has been paid (and not reclaimed ) it won't be subject to vat on the resale

Edited by cwin on Thursday 28th March 16:21
That's what I thought Craig, thanks for the clarification. In reality then, a non vat registered person could buy Andy's car for £60k (great value for money), run it for a couple of years & as long as they looked after it properly, could most likely get all or at least most of their purchase money back - not bad for a race car!