F1 Tyre Blow outs

[gaz1234]

Do you think they should stick on run-flats?

[Garvin]

Run flats won't help when the whole tyre disintegrates! Besides which they'd be limited to 50mph after a puncture which would make for a tedious Grand Prix. Better not to use Pirellis

[nottyash]

My Pirelli did the same thing on the A64. Bloody Italian ste

[NRS]

What can they actually do now before the next race? It's only a week away, so no idea if they have time to make new tyres of a different design before then if they have one available? The other problem would be the lack of testing of any new design too.

Another question is why did it happen now and in this way? It's not been such an issue earlier, and the way they went was also different (as pointed out on Sky). Did they change something after the test without informing anyone?

[indyxe]

Safety cars, every marshal out with brushes, road sweepers, in the middle of a grand prix, sadly another F1 calamity

[Slippydiff]

NRS said:

What can they actually do now before the next race? It's only a week away,

Apparently Bernie and Pirelli will be walking around the paddock handing out bottles gratis at the next F1 round.

Mercedes are understood to be testing it next week, though Ross Brawn wasn't available for comment. There is however some speculation as to whether the test will be legal. Charlie Whiting says it's ok in principle, apparently Christian Horner and Luca di Montezemolo aren't totally convinced . . . .

[MartG]

I'd guess that Pirelli will be specifying a higher minimum tyre pressure for next weekend, as they won't have time to produce enough new-construction tyres for the entire field

[motomk]

MartG said:

I'd guess that Pirelli will be specifying a higher minimum tyre pressure for next weekend, as they won't have time to produce enough new-construction tyres for the entire field

On a side note, why are the pressures so low anyway? Reminds me of drag tyres, they are like big blobs of jelly when they have low pressure! Good for traction but not for going around corners.

[Scuffers]

motomk said:

On a side note, why are the pressures so low anyway? Reminds me of drag tyres, they are like big blobs of jelly when they have low pressure! Good for traction but not for going around corners.

bigger contact patch...

German .gp does not have so many fast corners, so probably will get away with it.

[Turn7]

Not watched the gp, but seen the results.

This came up on twitter:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/23118588

And, frankly, I think the fact he says the kerbs are not safe is utter shyte.

The kerbs are precisely that. They are there to delineate the edge of the track.
Stay within track limits and you wont damage the tyres - not rocket science.



And my 2p worth - single tyre rules suck - big time. And the even crapper rule in F1 making you use a tyre that wont work is even worse.

[mollytherocker]

Turn7 said:

The kerbs are precisely that. They are there to delineate the edge of the track.
Stay within track limits and you wont damage the tyres - not rocket science.



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Stay within the limits of the track? You may as well pack up and go home as you will be seconds slower per lap and probably last.

I am afraid that it is rocket science. It's about maximising speed and balancing that against the rules and other risks.

Alfonso admitted that he didn't follow the advice to keep away from the kerbs for this very reason. He chose to carry on and take the risk and it worked.

If you don't push every boundary to the limit, you will never be a winner.

[zetec]

Turn7 said:

The kerbs are precisely that. They are there to delineate the edge of the track.
Stay within track limits and you wont damage the tyres - not rocket science.

As suggested during the race, replace the kerbs with Armco, let's see what happens then.

[vescaegg]

Slippydiff said:

Apparently Bernie and Pirelli will be walking around the paddock handing out bottles gratis at the next F1 round.

Mercedes are understood to be testing it next week, though Ross Brawn wasn't available for comment. There is however some speculation as to whether the test will be legal. Charlie Whiting says it's ok in principle, apparently Christian Horner and Luca di Montezemolo aren't totally convinced . . . .

Surely not?!





























Bernie would never give those away free.

[Grenoble]

I'm interested to see how many teams were running them below Pirelli recommended PSI.

[MartG]

Tyres, quid a set

[clonmult]

nottyash said:

My Pirelli did the same thing on the A64. Bloody Italian ste

My A6 had Pirelli ditchfinders on it when bought. Replaced them as soon as I could afford a set of new boots.

This must be a chronic PR disaster for Pirelli, seeing their product give up in such a high profile position. The lack of testing doesn't help, but ultimately we need another tyre manufacturer in the game. Single source=lack of competition.

[dadofbud]

mollytherocker said:

Turn7 said:

The kerbs are precisely that. They are there to delineate the edge of the track.
Stay within track limits and you wont damage the tyres - not rocket science.



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Stay within the limits of the track? You may as well pack up and go home as you will be seconds slower per lap and probably last.

I am afraid that it is rocket science. It's about maximising speed and balancing that against the rules and other risks.

Alfonso admitted that he didn't follow the advice to keep away from the kerbs for this very reason. He chose to carry on and take the risk and it worked.

If you don't push every boundary to the limit, you will never be a winner.

I agree, because there's one flaw with Gary the guru's theory, those kerbs have been like that since the start of the motorsport season back at the end of March, and many cars have been over them, albeit not F1, but including and not limited too; GP2, and porsche supercup this very weekend.

[s3fella]

It's interesting that no one has drawn the similarity to the Pirelli world super bike tyre debacle of last year, at Monza. Slightly different in that it was odd conditions ie wets on dryi f track but similar results and they got a lot of criticism over it.

Edited by s3fella on Sunday 30th June 23:12

[S0 What]

Grenoble said:

I'm interested to see how many teams were running them below Pirelli recommended PSI.

Me too, i seem to remember RB had problem when running outside the pirelli recomended camber limit, i'll wait and see what the outcome of the tyre tests are.

[spadgm]

F1 is sooo st now, and next year when they are running turbocharged Dyson vacuum cleaners for engines it will be even worse *sigh*