Hunt vs Lauda: F1's Greatest Racing Rivals
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Here's a doc from the '90s: Clash Of The Titans - Lauda Vs Hunt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c19DqS127Ac
I'd forgotten the McLaren/Ferrari rivarly stemmed from that season.
Here's a doc from the '90s: Clash Of The Titans - Lauda Vs Hunt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c19DqS127Ac
I'd forgotten the McLaren/Ferrari rivarly stemmed from that season.
I just hope Rush is not too Hollywood cliché film as is usual.
I doubt that there will ever be a better Motorsport film like LeMans had a few cliché's but not too many and was it 8 mins in before any dialogue, my kind of racing film.
I watched the documentary last night but fell asleep half way through (probably from sitting in too much traffic at Goodwood earlier) so did they display the genuine friendship between Niki and James ?
I doubt that there will ever be a better Motorsport film like LeMans had a few cliché's but not too many and was it 8 mins in before any dialogue, my kind of racing film.
I watched the documentary last night but fell asleep half way through (probably from sitting in too much traffic at Goodwood earlier) so did they display the genuine friendship between Niki and James ?
Can you imagine a GP driver today more or less admitting he was scared? It would never happen.
Always admired Lauda for his honesty after Japan as he never once lied about his reasons for quitting after the first lap. He told the truth from the minute he got out of the Ferrari.
Had he remained on track in Japan he would almost certainly have retained his drivers title as the drying track would suited him perfectly.
However he didnt & he did was best for him - not for anyone else. Also noted that, to this day, he remains happy with his decision to quit & has no regrets.
A good programme without any flannel, bulls
t or nonsense.
As for 'Rush' - i am not sure about it as having seen some of the trailers that have been released i just feel that it wont, somehow, be what we expect.
I hope i am wrong so role on September when it hits the big screen so that we can finally see the finished product.
Always admired Lauda for his honesty after Japan as he never once lied about his reasons for quitting after the first lap. He told the truth from the minute he got out of the Ferrari.
Had he remained on track in Japan he would almost certainly have retained his drivers title as the drying track would suited him perfectly.
However he didnt & he did was best for him - not for anyone else. Also noted that, to this day, he remains happy with his decision to quit & has no regrets.
A good programme without any flannel, bulls
t or nonsense.As for 'Rush' - i am not sure about it as having seen some of the trailers that have been released i just feel that it wont, somehow, be what we expect.
I hope i am wrong so role on September when it hits the big screen so that we can finally see the finished product.
JMC1 said:
I doubt that there will ever be a better Motorsport film like LeMans had a few cliché's but not too many and was it 8 mins in before any dialogue, my kind of racing film.
I must be the only motorsport fan who didn't like that film, felt like it lacked enough track action to be interesting as a 'racing' film, yet lacked any really nerdy technical shots/scenes that really indulged the nerd.I just thought Id rather be watching an indepth documentary about the group 5 loop hole of that era or watching actual racing from that period (yes I know there was some actual footage from the race!).
Disappointed with it.
An inferior rehash of Clash of the Titans that I linked at top of the page.
I think they could have done better with handling the British GP debacle, not too sure about Simon Taylor's commentary, 'rivalry' again overblown to an extent because it was more of a team rivalry rather than the drivers as they were good buddies - could have done more emphasis on the latter.
Can someone clarify Simon Taylor's comments on the British GP tribunal? he claimed the men in suits didn't know the rule book - was that a general comment or specific in relation to the tribunal itself?
An inferior rehash of Clash of the Titans that I linked at top of the page.
I think they could have done better with handling the British GP debacle, not too sure about Simon Taylor's commentary, 'rivalry' again overblown to an extent because it was more of a team rivalry rather than the drivers as they were good buddies - could have done more emphasis on the latter.
Can someone clarify Simon Taylor's comments on the British GP tribunal? he claimed the men in suits didn't know the rule book - was that a general comment or specific in relation to the tribunal itself?
Indeed Eric, you have it wrong way round. Lauda burst into Hunt's room whilst he was in the company of a young lady. Lauda was wearing his full outfit, with cap rather than helmet and gave the famous line. Lauda did it deliberately not because he was being the robotic Austrian, but because everybody knew Hunt was entertaining a lady and it was *everyones* idea of funny.
Hunt would never have done it to Lauda because Marlene would have kicked his arse to high heaven and back.
Heard a brilliant tale a few yrs back with respect to Niki, Marlene and Bernie. Niki stated Bernie tried to screw him on anything, everything was very straight, he never felt slighted. When asked whether that was because Bernie respected him/honoured him after the crash and what he had been through, Niki laughed and Marlene replied that no, it was because she threatened to skewer his weiner if Bernie ever tried to fk with Niki.
Life was different back in the day.
Hunt would never have done it to Lauda because Marlene would have kicked his arse to high heaven and back.
Heard a brilliant tale a few yrs back with respect to Niki, Marlene and Bernie. Niki stated Bernie tried to screw him on anything, everything was very straight, he never felt slighted. When asked whether that was because Bernie respected him/honoured him after the crash and what he had been through, Niki laughed and Marlene replied that no, it was because she threatened to skewer his weiner if Bernie ever tried to f
k with Niki.Life was different back in the day.
Not wishing to sound disrespectful to James Hunt but all the programme really did for me was reaffirm how utterly fortunate he was to win the Championship. Take away Lauda's rib injury, the missed races as a result of his Nurburgring accident, and his refusal to carry on at Fuji and Hunt was destined to lose by at least 15 points.
You can't take away the fact that Hunt won the title, but frankly Lauda was the far more remarkable driver and character all round when you really think about it. A read of Lauda's autobiography "To Hell and Back" is recommended to really understand how complex and driven he was (and is)
You can't take away the fact that Hunt won the title, but frankly Lauda was the far more remarkable driver and character all round when you really think about it. A read of Lauda's autobiography "To Hell and Back" is recommended to really understand how complex and driven he was (and is)
corozin said:
Not wishing to sound disrespectful to James Hunt but all the programme really did for me was reaffirm how utterly fortunate he was to win the Championship. Take away Lauda's rib injury, the missed races as a result of his Nurburgring accident, and his refusal to carry on at Fuji and Hunt was destined to lose by at least 15 points.
You can't take away the fact that Hunt won the title, but frankly Lauda was the far more remarkable driver and character all round when you really think about it. A read of Lauda's autobiography "To Hell and Back" is recommended to really understand how complex and driven he was (and is)
Most champions do gain a little from good favour over the course of a season.You can't take away the fact that Hunt won the title, but frankly Lauda was the far more remarkable driver and character all round when you really think about it. A read of Lauda's autobiography "To Hell and Back" is recommended to really understand how complex and driven he was (and is)
On the flip side you could say Hunt suffered as a result of Ferrari's "pettiness" over following the rules strictly, rather than the spirit of them.
Loved it- I was at Brands on that amazing day in 1976 and it was extraordinary.Hunt was a character- and super quick on his day. But Lauda..the bravest man I have ever seen in a GP car, frighteningly smart and oh so neat in his driving.His gearchanges were bloody poetry to hear.
Edited by coppice on Tuesday 16th July 09:37
Fascinating documentary. I can't have been the only person who wished for that F1 to be back on our screens (minus the driver dying every season of course). Agree with the assessment above regards Hunt having a degree of luck in winning the championship, but sometimes you have to wonder whether it was just written in the stars that year.
When every other publication keeps trotting out all these all time great lists I always think Niki Lauda is always forgotten about a bit.
He was brilliant in his day and as he got older he may have got a teeny bit slower but his brains always made up for it. Great character and very fast too and great relationship with Hunt.
Hopefully Rush if it is not too cheesy may just remind a few how good they both were and how ballsey F1 was back then.
He was brilliant in his day and as he got older he may have got a teeny bit slower but his brains always made up for it. Great character and very fast too and great relationship with Hunt.
Hopefully Rush if it is not too cheesy may just remind a few how good they both were and how ballsey F1 was back then.
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