Mobil 1 62nd 12 hours of Sebring
Mobil 1 62nd 12 hours of Sebring
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854 posts

161 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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It's ongoing. MotorsTV will resume at 20:30 if I'm not mistaken. For those with the right devices it can be streamed for free on freeview or at least I hope for this event as well.

If you know of an internet stream post below biggrin

No idea what's happening atm either frown.

PabloTheOrange

1,073 posts

198 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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Not a lot now a(nother) LMPC crash has put a halt on proceedings...

webby74

569 posts

203 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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Viper fire was massive. Finally some decent racing to watch, shame it's not back on motors til half 8

designndrive62

799 posts

180 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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Live on Imsa.com

Allyc85

7,225 posts

209 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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Been watching bits here and there. Risi Ferrari driver needs a good slap for wiping out the Momo Porsche, whilst rejoining after crashing at turn 1!!

tig6

139 posts

243 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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Watching via the IMSA website too. Crazy number of accidents. Looking forward to some long stint green flag racing.

Alex Langheck

835 posts

152 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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12 Hours of Yellows - a race may break out.

Unbelievably bad driving standards - some just moronic driving.

I'm also not too happy that the DP's seem to be quicker than the LMP2's..... BoP/ Handicapping favouring the DP's.

Red Firecracker

5,331 posts

250 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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After Daytona and now this, the officials/organisers are really not showing themselves in the best light.

IMSA Officials Error Affects GTLM and GTD Results

As for the commentary on the IMSA stream from MRN.....

phugleigh

141 posts

253 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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The Rachel Riley ford won though
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Alex Langheck

835 posts

152 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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When under green flag, I thought it was a good race.

Sadly, IMSA love bunching the field up, and throw a FCY for a minor incident; the final FCY for example, probably cost ESM the race.

And as for the penalty against the Alex Job Racing Porsche, when it should have been the 912 was just Wrong!! Mistakes like that shouldn't happen.

Red Firecracker

5,331 posts

250 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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No mention of the red flag for at least 2 - 3 minutes whilst it was all on screen was a particular MRN highlight.

Daytona was awful, constant NASCAR advertising and references back to NASCAR (admittedly unsurprising when NASCAR is MRN's bread and butter), it just made you feel as though Sportscars were an inconvenience, especially when a pitlane reporter was totally baffled by a car without a roof. They did get in some more Sportscar-centric experts this time, but still not good in my book.

I should qualify by saying I'm not a rose tinted glasses Radio Le Mans fan boi, some of their stuff does grate (pitlane mainly), but for listener experience, I'd take RLM over MRN. Still, at least it wasn't Carlton Kirby....

Altrezia

8,730 posts

234 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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I agree about Daytona. So poor I didn't watch the whole 24 hours - which is a real shame.

I really miss the fast cars at Sebring - having the audis (and peugeot!) going around was a highlight for me. Since losing the ALMS we've lost some of the magic from american racing, imho.


Red Firecracker

5,331 posts

250 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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I guess it'll take time to sort itself out, and in a couple of years time all will be a distant memory, but it's the nagging doubt that the P2 cars are not being 'allowed' to compete and that a DP 'should' always win that is annoying me. Maybe just me being paranoid, I do hope so.

Red Firecracker

5,331 posts

250 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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As you say, it can/could/should be something very exciting, but that may not happen until they have proper, unified prototype regs. I think the DP's and LMP's are just too far apart to be joined by a set of regs and BOP without really hampering one or the other.

Altrezia

8,730 posts

234 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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IMHO it should be P1, DP, GT, GTAm - I still don't understand why they lumped DP in with P2.

Red Firecracker

5,331 posts

250 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Altrezia said:
IMHO it should be P1, DP, GT, GTAm - I still don't understand why they lumped DP in with P2.
I guess their trouble is what regs do they run to? To retain a link to the ACO, P1 cars would need to be hybrids, ideally, or at least to the new ACO regs and there just isn't the apparent market in the US for them, whereas they had a good P2 field and the P2's are homologated until 2016. The problem is that the dominant (?) half of the merger favours the DP, maybe too much, so the P2 teams appear to be being regulated against, see Ryan Dalziel's comments after Sebring, very unhappy. Of course, if you tried to dump DP or P2 and just have one Prototype selection, you're putting a lot of teams up against it financially and thus would have essentially a GT championship. The GT sections do appear strong though.

It'll be 2017 before it all settles down, one suspects.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

209 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Red Firecracker said:
No mention of the red flag for at least 2 - 3 minutes whilst it was all on screen was a particular MRN highlight.

Daytona was awful, constant NASCAR advertising and references back to NASCAR (admittedly unsurprising when NASCAR is MRN's bread and butter), it just made you feel as though Sportscars were an inconvenience, especially when a pitlane reporter was totally baffled by a car without a roof. They did get in some more Sportscar-centric experts this time, but still not good in my book.

I should qualify by saying I'm not a rose tinted glasses Radio Le Mans fan boi, some of their stuff does grate (pitlane mainly), but for listener experience, I'd take RLM over MRN. Still, at least it wasn't Carlton Kirby....
Carlton Kirby would have been a million times better than Martin Haven, who made so many mistakes on Saturday that it got beyond a joke. He even kept on forgetting things he had talked about a couple minutes before!

Alex Langheck

835 posts

152 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Altrezia said:
IMHO it should be P1, DP, GT, GTAm - I still don't understand why they lumped DP in with P2.
Because basically the Nascar owned Grand Am bought out the ALMS; And therefore they wanted their own DP's to remain competitive with the LMP2 cars. They kept the LMP's to keep a link with ACO type racing. On pure pace, the LMP2's would be miles faster than the prehistoric DP's - and that would never do. SO, the LMP2's are BoP/Handicapped to allow the DP's to be equal.

We also have 2 GT classes; GTLM, and GTD; Le Mans class GT's, plus Daytona class GT's.

It's all still early; but if the DP's keep winning, I think the LMP2 teams will wonder about staying in; and I can't imagine any European based teams rushing to enter.

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

276 months

Tuesday 18th March 2014
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I was at the race this weekend and during the 7 hours of actual racing it was great, the 5 hours of safety car also allowed time to load photos in the media center and get some lunch, so not all bad.
I was in the photo shuttle when the Viper caught fire and as we came under the Corvette bridge could clearly see it so I leapt out and took some pics.




All my pics from the weekend are here including a few more of the #33 Viper fire:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10202621...

I was also lucky enough to win a hot lap of the track with Johnny O'Connell in one of the Bondurant C7 Corvettes so the video of that is up here:
http://youtu.be/jERBQWf3mQs



Red Firecracker

5,331 posts

250 months

Tuesday 18th March 2014
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Very good Sebring comment on DSC by Graham Goodwin;

http://www.dailysportscar.com/?p=25310