RE: Motorsport on Monday: Formula E follow-up
RE: Motorsport on Monday: Formula E follow-up
Monday 7th July 2014

Motorsport on Monday: Formula E follow-up

Formula E test day - so what's it really like?



I enjoyed my breakfast this morning - I had a small helping of humble pie served up courtesy of the FIA Formula E championship. It was the new category's first proper test day at Donington Park last week. But before we get to that, a bit of background on my morning meal.

Back in June I centred this column on news from a then recent interview, given by Formula E CEO Alejandro Agag. He outlined the series would award one driver an extra boost of power decided upon by Twitter votes from race fans watching at the track and on telly around the world.

It turns out despite Agag's comments this wasn't strictly true, but that after a slight moan at PH from Formula E, the series still couldn't tell us how it was going to work. Until recently, that is.

Real circuits will be more glamorous...
Real circuits will be more glamorous...
Fanboost still a farce?
Now we know exactly how it will and the story still isn't that promising. Instead of one driver, the three most popular drivers following the fan vote will each get a 2.5-second "Fanboost" of 90hp, taking total output of their 800kg machine from 180hp to 270hp.

Votes can be cast online, through an app, and on social networks like Twitter and Facebook, and closes the day before the race. Call me sceptical - and I'll no doubt get some flack for it - but I still don't think is going to work.

There's no need to orchestrate racing this way in my opinion. Because at the heart of the championship is something interesting and something new that is genuinely curious, thought-provoking and unusual to watch.

Sean's concerns about noise have been allayed
Sean's concerns about noise have been allayed
Silence is golden
My previous words on Formula E also took a pop (some may say unfairly) at the noise - or rather the potential lack of it.

I admit - and this is partly where my breakfast menu took shape - to a degree I was wrong. It's actually a lack of conventional noise. The Formula E machines sounds like giant remote control cars because, in terms of the powertrain, they effectively are.

You hear the transmission schthunk into every gear, you hear the frictional forces from the tyre - including huge shrieks from locked brakes that aren't drowned out by any petrol-created sound waves - and you hear the grounding of bodywork and the rumble of rubber on kerbs.

For me, it'll never be a direct replacement for the low frequencies of a Corvette C7.R that reverberate around your chest cavity or the high notes of an old 2.4-litre F1 engine that send my stomach into bouts of excited somersaults, but as a complementary series showcasing future technology, I think it has a place.

And if, as the championship enters its second year and development rules open up, the trickle down of technology reaches road cars, as drivers and enthusiasts we'll be better for it.

Do the cars need to be faster?
Do the cars need to be faster?
Pace race
After the temporary chicane at the Old Hairpin (designed to simulate tight turns of the all-inner city tracks Formula E will race at) was removed, and the drivers got increasingly used to the nuances in metering out volts not hydrocarbons with the throttle, the times started dropping. To a 1 minute 31.973, set by Audi Sport factory driver, Lucas di Grassi.

That's just three tenths shy of the Formula 4 lap record, set in a 185hp slicks-and-wings car weighing just 470kg.

And on the subject of tyres, those in Formula E are interesting. Treaded in construction and available in only one compound, they'll be used come rain or shine - and with an emphasis placed upon energy efficiency, the bespoke Michelins are another area that could cause excitement.

Corner speeds aren't as high as you might imagine, but with less rubber physically contacting the road and a more durable compound, teamed with instant electric torque, it means the 19 Spark-Renault SRT-01Es (of course, it was more like 38 cars, as each driver gets two due to charging and range issues, but we'll gloss over that) were making some shapes.

I still don't think the cars are quick enough, or that they even look quick enough, but hopefully that'll come next year as team boss' squiggles are signed on blank cheques authorising development.

Fastest lap close to Formula 4 record
Fastest lap close to Formula 4 record
I have a reservation
The signs are mostly positive though, and seeing really is believing for Formula E. Add this to the city backdrops and it could be pretty spectacular. Try it yourself. I'm not afraid to admit I was a sceptic and that my attitude is changing - but there are two important caveats.

As you've probably guessed, noise is a big part of racing for me. Read here if you haven't. The downturn in decibels in F1 this year hasn't bothered me too much, because there's still enough noise there. If it were taken away altogether, that'd get me - which is why Formula E alongside other championships makes sense.

Apart from that Fanboost feature...

Hamilton back on top at Silverstone
Hamilton back on top at Silverstone
Happy 50th
Yes, the British GP was on this weekend and no, we haven't forgotten about it. With Rosberg retiring from the lead with gearbox failure, Hamilton emerged victorious at Silverstone's 50th Grand Prix after a red flag stoppage to repair damaged Armco from Raikkonen's Ferrari's 150mph, 47g smash, closing the championship margin to four points.

Mercedes dominate again. Game on for the rest of the season.

[Pics: LAT]

 

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VonSenger

Original Poster:

2,465 posts

206 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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What a load of crap. I heard them going over Westminster bridge, forget it. No one will watch this ste.

pherlopolus

2,151 posts

175 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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I will, looks like it could be fun.

designndrive62

790 posts

174 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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I like the idea of Formula E. This years rules haven't made the most of the possibilities, but I hope as the rules open up to allow teams to develop their own cars that this changes.

Also, it may mean we get something better looking than these cars. From a design point of view they are a bit of a disaster IMO. In some views they look ok but in others they really don't work at all. This was a chance to design something completely new and exciting and they dropped the ball on it.

Gruffy

7,212 posts

276 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Fanboost!? That's not for real, surely?

Banana skins and oil slicks the following season?

Chris Type R

8,420 posts

266 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Gruffy said:
Fanboost!? That's not for real, surely?

Banana skins and oil slicks the following season?
You're not taking this seriously - it'll be FIA approved sprinklers.

garypotter

1,930 posts

167 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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The glossed over part about range, re charging etc why not have 2 races where as the 2nd race they start in reverse from when they finished, no need for pitstops, changing cars or batteries or 10 hours waiting for re charge.

hammo19

6,572 posts

213 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Will the pace car be a Toyota Prius?

MiniMan64

18,377 posts

207 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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I really want to like this but.....that noise....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMKOa0Gbcw

FestivAli

1,121 posts

255 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Truly racing aimed at Gen Y; environmentally friendly (nothing wrong with that), urban track based (because we can't be arsed getting out of our nearest metropolis and driving an hour or so), and the most successful vapid douchebag on social media gets awarded for having the most likes.


VonSenger

Original Poster:

2,465 posts

206 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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enjoy.........................


http://news.sky.com/story/1292549/formula-e-cars-r...

Dreadful.

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

207 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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VonSenger said:
What a load of crap. I heard them going over Westminster bridge, forget it. No one will watch this ste.
Wrong!

I'll watch it, with an open mind. If you want to judge only with your own ignorance, that says more about you than it does the race series.

storminnorman

2,357 posts

169 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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MiniMan64 said:
I really want to like this but.....that noise....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMKOa0Gbcw
The fly-bys almost sound good, that whoosh reminds me of similar jet-engine noises the R18 puts out. The start was silly though, like a 2.4 V8 at 5x fast forward.

It would be foolish to expect the noise to be anything other than crap, that's just the way electric cars are. I for one will give the series a chance, though, especially to fill the F1 off-season boredom.
As long as it doesn't upstage good old combustion motorsport. Then there'll be trouble.

SydneyBridge

10,351 posts

175 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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I am looking forward to the London race, next year whenever it is.

It will be interesting to see the track around hyde park and I don't really care about the noise as long as it is good racing.

Regiment

2,799 posts

176 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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I really love the overall look of the cars and really love the idea but it's looks to be incredibly poorly done, fan boost sounds like a bad joke and I really feel that Formula E has arrived too early as the technology isn't there to make it a success. The races should be equal in length to Formula 1 and the speeds should be getting ramped up to Formula 1 speeds as quickly as possible as well, the battery technology isn't there unless the teams can find some way of swapping batteries during a tire change which would be absolutely fine with me.

A great mix of inner city circuits with a few iconic Grand Prix circuits I.e. Spa and Silverstone, 70 lap races with a pit stop every 20-25 laps to change battery and tires, you could limit battery size but not technology to encourage manufacturers to try new battery technology and allow them a max of 3 battery changes per race. Market them as cars that can accelerate faster than a formula 1, give them 4 wheel drive with 4 independent motors and top speed and noise wouldn't matter most of the time anyway with the inner city tracks.

VonSenger

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2,465 posts

206 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Mr Gear said:
Wrong!

I'll watch it, with an open mind. If you want to judge only with your own ignorance, that says more about you than it does the race series.
Calm down pissy pants, this is a forum. One where you can share your thoughts good or bad. If you don't like my comment, go elsewhere.

MiniMan64

18,377 posts

207 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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SydneyBridge said:
I am looking forward to the London race, next year whenever it is.

It will be interesting to see the track around hyde park and I don't really care about the noise as long as it is good racing.
27th June I believe?

cookie1600

2,262 posts

178 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Gruffy said:
Fanboost!? That's not for real, surely?

Banana skins and oil slicks the following season?
Ah yes, where would they get inspiration for that then?



I stand by what I first said about fanboost, it's far too open to rigging, manipulation and the whims of people who like / dislike a driver or team. It's going to be hard enough to win people over to E racing without clouding the issue with non-race related power-ups. Let the machines and drivers show us how good they are, not the fingers of keyboard racers wanting to make mischief.

Do we really need real life Mario Kart?

donteatpeople

855 posts

291 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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I'll be going to watch them and I'm actually looking forward to the sound of the cars. It's inescapable that they're not very loud but volume isn't everything in my opinion. They have a sound that's different and new things keep the world interesting.

SydneyBridge said:
I am looking forward to the London race, next year whenever it is.

It will be interesting to see the track around hyde park and I don't really care about the noise as long as it is good racing.
It's looking like they've settled on Battersea as a location now.

VonSenger said:
Calm down pissy pants, this is a forum. One where you can share your thoughts good or bad. If you don't like my comment, go elsewhere.
Sharing your thoughts is fine. Making statements that assume the whole world shares your personal opinion is moronic.

VladD

8,127 posts

282 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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I'm not sure why they haven't designed the cars with replaceable battery packs that can be changed during a pit stop. Makes more sense than switching cars.

I also think the twitter idea is stupid.

I don't like the sound/lack of sound either.

It'll be interesting to see how it progresses in the future though.


Mr Gear

9,416 posts

207 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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VonSenger said:
Mr Gear said:
Wrong!

I'll watch it, with an open mind. If you want to judge only with your own ignorance, that says more about you than it does the race series.
Calm down pissy pants, this is a forum. One where you can share your thoughts good or bad. If you don't like my comment, go elsewhere.
You might want to take a piece of your own advice. rofl