Where will the racing Tuscans be in 2006 ?
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Clearly the Tuscan Challenge as such is, sadly, no more. Perhaps this PH sub-group should therefore be re-titled ?).
What's the latest "best bet" on where the majority of Tuscans will be racing next year ? I'd like to race a Tuscan myself next year but need to be reasonably sure there will be a few others to race against, before making further investment.
The 7 cars racing at Castle Coombe yesterday looked & sounded superb & it was great to see them mixing it with the Radicals et al. Special congrats to Darren for the class win & Andy for battling through from the back of the grid, headlights blazing.
What's happened to all the others ? Surely not that many have been converted for road use have they ?
It would be such a shame to see all the cars go off in different directions.
>> Edited by 55jnj on Tuesday 30th August 22:19
What's the latest "best bet" on where the majority of Tuscans will be racing next year ? I'd like to race a Tuscan myself next year but need to be reasonably sure there will be a few others to race against, before making further investment.
The 7 cars racing at Castle Coombe yesterday looked & sounded superb & it was great to see them mixing it with the Radicals et al. Special congrats to Darren for the class win & Andy for battling through from the back of the grid, headlights blazing.
What's happened to all the others ? Surely not that many have been converted for road use have they ?
It would be such a shame to see all the cars go off in different directions.
>> Edited by 55jnj on Tuesday 30th August 22:19
The chaps would be glad to have you aboard and will help all they can.
The rumour from Combe (which even made it to the tannoy, so it must be true
) is that the Tuscans will form their own class in the TVRCC Challenge next year.
Together they can easily make a grid of 15 or more, so they should be able to get their own track-time and not be pushed into reserve slots.
Added to that, the circuits can bank on a more consistant travelling support because time will not be split between the two series (and won't be drawn away to GT events either
).
I can't wait for it to happen.
The rumour from Combe (which even made it to the tannoy, so it must be true
) is that the Tuscans will form their own class in the TVRCC Challenge next year. Together they can easily make a grid of 15 or more, so they should be able to get their own track-time and not be pushed into reserve slots.
Added to that, the circuits can bank on a more consistant travelling support because time will not be split between the two series (and won't be drawn away to GT events either
). I can't wait for it to happen.
V8 Archie said:
The chaps would be glad to have you aboard and will help all they can.
The rumour from Combe (which even made it to the tannoy, so it must be true
Together they can easily make a grid of 15 or more, so they should be able to get their own track-time and not be pushed into reserve slots.
Added to that, the circuits can bank on a more consistant travelling support because time will not be split between the two series (and won't be drawn away to GT events either
I can't wait for it to happen.
Do the Tuscans want to run in the TVRCC championship?
V8 Archie said:
The rumour from Combe (which even made it to the tannoy, so it must be true
The more correct rumour is that the TVRCC Challenge cars might run in the invitation class of the Tuscan Challenge. So the Tuscan challenge would remain the headline title and maintain their championship status, and continue to run with BRSCC.
with the extra cars the tvrcc challenge have in build and a few more Tuscan challenge spec we should easily have over 20 tvrs' on the grid :jump:
As the tuscans have run with mixed grids this year they are used to the challenge of slower traffic, and it can actually add an extra element to things ( besides good practise for Le Mans :hehe) So I think the intial resistance to that has gone. There was also some tvrcc challenge resistance but I think we all realise to survive and to grow TVR racing needs to join forces.
there are some gaps in times between the ajp cars and the slower class tvrcc cars, but a slower car doesnt mean a slower driver, and with changeable conditions some surprising results can show up ( mind you even on Monday my class B 4ltr Rover engined tuscan wouldnt have been the last tuscan
) The only change we may do to the tvrcc cars is to move to slicks to close the Gaps up a little. With the looming absence of TVR's from Gt level racing this should concentrate the TVR action for the fans( who have all been very supportive to both series) as well, rather than a couple of Tuscans here and the odd tasmin there. The worst case senario is that both series break up and you get all the cars fragmented.
Everyone i have spoken to is quite boyant, and John Reid seems confident, Tuscan spares are available, next season is looking good, and there is even talk of a Tuscan challenge winter series.
AS an asside I have a D/Header slot available on 23rd October at snetterton which im trying to put together a TVR open race to get any and every type of racing tvr on the track together for a one off race...
So basically If you have a Tuscan or a race prepped tvr, dont hide itin the garage get it out and race it
G
Edited to say:- Its still early days at the moment so nothing is cast in stone but it gets my vote. Im even the person with the most to loose, driving a tuscan but built to tvrcc class B, i might look slow running with identical looking cars with double the BHP !!!! I can see some big class stickers being required
>> Edited by Graham on Wednesday 31st August 09:05
I think it'll be great to be fighting to be the first *funny old wedge car* over the line. I can't wait to see our tasmin swamped by a group of fast-lapping tuscan race cars as it's mk2 granada wheel bearings buckle under the strain of sticky slicks .. should be really exciting racing.
.. not overly sold on this idea I have to say. We build a fast wedge at last and all of a sudden tenth place is the best we can hope for? brilliant.
Cliff and I have already discussed where we're racing next year and we're comitted to supporting the TVRCC Challenge.
If this is what it takes to secure the future of both race series then so be it, but I suspect from reading this it'll be the year of the long face for me.
.. not overly sold on this idea I have to say. We build a fast wedge at last and all of a sudden tenth place is the best we can hope for? brilliant.
Cliff and I have already discussed where we're racing next year and we're comitted to supporting the TVRCC Challenge.
If this is what it takes to secure the future of both race series then so be it, but I suspect from reading this it'll be the year of the long face for me.
Since nobody has mentioned it yet, I thought I would just add the most likely alternative/option, IMHO that the Tuscan boys have, The New Britcar V8 series.
This is being launched after all the fuss of the Britcar 24hr race has died down, but I gather that they intend to set up a 2x 35/45 min race weekend with testing and Qualifying for the same sort of entry fee that we in Britcar pay, hence it will be great value for bags of track time, result, happy smiling faces.
When I spoke to James Tucker (EERC) about it, he even indicated that if all the Tuscan drivers came across then he would consider in conjunction with John Reid, the Tuscan co-ordinator and Tuscan Challenge race series MSA licence holder, ways of keeping the Tuscan challenge alive within the new Britcar V8 series, i.e " THE TUSCAN/BRITCAR V8 Challenge " which in effect saves the original series from a form of extinction.
This is again, in my opinion, the direction to go as it will have TV coverage, excellent promotion, excellent sponsorship opportunities, laid back race day atmosphere,( no problems parking your support or drivers personal cars etc) and great fun for all. The cars will also have a "real market" race wise, which will help to maintain their longevity for at the moment most of the cars being sold, at excellent and fair prices, may I add, due to strong demand for this unique bit of kit, are going to track day or road use.
These cars should be raced, and for those of you that have yet to experience the sheer delights and mental and physical self endangerment that comes with the drive,.............keep trying, it's well worth the wait even if it takes years to achieve, there's nothing that comes anywhere near, seriously. Line up every young, willing, sexy, and stark naked actress you can think of and include a race ready Tuscan in the line up and there would be no contest,....... I'd be up to my neck in tits, bugger the Tuscan, I can drive Andy Holdens anytime, I may be crazy about Tuscans but I'm not stupid
Just as an after thought, I gather Reidy may have access to some cheap Saggyarse bodies that apparently fit, with a little help, a Tuscan chassis, Now that could be interesting !!!!
>> Edited by Racing Rod on Thursday 1st September 15:34
Racing Rod said:
Since nobody has mentioned it yet, I thought I would just add the most likely alternative/option, IMHO that the Tuscan boys have, The New Britcar V8 series.
This is being launched after all the fuss of the Britcar 24hr race has died down, but I gather that they intend to set up a 2x 35/45 min race weekend with testing and Qualifying for the same sort of entry fee that we in Britcar pay, hence it will be great value for bags of track time, result, happy smiling faces.
When I spoke to James Tucker (EERC) about it, he even indicated that if all the Tuscan drivers came across then he would consider in conjunction with John Reid, the Tuscan co-ordinator and Tuscan Challenge race series MSA licence holder, ways of keeping the Tuscan challenge alive within the new Britcar V8 series, i.e " THE TUSCAN/BRITCAR V8 Challenge " which in effect saves the original series from a form of extinction.
This is again, in my opinion, the direction to go as it will have TV coverage, excellent promotion, excellent sponsorship opportunities, laid back race day atmosphere,( no problems parking your support or drivers personal cars etc) and great fun for all. The cars will also have a "real market" race wise, which will help to maintain their longevity for at the moment most of the cars being sold, at excellent and fair prices, may I add, due to strong demand for this unique bit of kit, are going to track day or road use.
These cars should be raced, and for those of you that have yet to experience the sheer delights and mental and physical self endangerment that comes with the drive,.............keep trying, it's well worth the wait even if it takes years to achieve, there's nothing that comes anywhere near, seriously. Line up every young, willing, sexy, and stark naked actress you can think of and include a race ready Tuscan in the line up and there would be no contest,....... I'd be up to my neck in tits, bugger the Tuscan, I can drive Andy Holdens anytime, I may be crazy about Tuscans but I'm not stupid
See Britcar V8's in the Britcar forum. Other people have mentioned this in the past. Adam Sharpe is importing Aussie V8's and this should make good racing. There is even the Supercar Jaguar built by Andy Rouse!
Chris
The aussie V8s are powerful bits of kit, around 700bhp but quite heavy on the old weight, I'm guessing again at circa 1150/1200klgs. When you look at the times a Cup class 996 GT3 at say 1100klgs, it can keep one fairly honest with a good driver at the helm so, my guess, and I would stress the word "guess" is that most of the Tuscans at 475bhp and 850klgs could keep up with the Ford Falcons or Holdens or whatever, and the very quick Tuscan drivers could take them.
The bigger question would be could the Tuscans run at full tilt for up to 45 mins per race and remain reliable????
...........With good prep and a following wind, I think they could, allowing of course, for the bigger fuel tank and longer lasting dunlops
The bigger question would be could the Tuscans run at full tilt for up to 45 mins per race and remain reliable????
...........With good prep and a following wind, I think they could, allowing of course, for the bigger fuel tank and longer lasting dunlops Gassing Station | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff