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ojs1

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3 posts

235 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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I am desperate to race in the Caterham Academy, the only problem being the finance. Does anyone know if it is possible to gain sponsorship or if sponsorship for this event is allowed?

Olly.

Finchy172

389 posts

236 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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speak to hyperion motorsport

they run many cars in the academy.


Unfortunately you will need to put up a fair amount perhaps just under 25k maybe 35k to race a season in the academy as you will have to buy the car

ojs1

Original Poster:

3 posts

235 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Thank you! I have the info about buying the car but it is that that I need help with!

Olly

Finchy172

389 posts

236 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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your like every other youngster or person in the uk

My friends came 2nd in formula ford festival this year
hadnt driven all year.
Hired a car, raced through and came 2nd overall

he has raw talent and people can see that

BUT

he has no money as he spend everyting on karting success

anonymous-user

71 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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well there is one on the academy web page for £15K so i dont see how it can cost a further 10-15K to run in the championship given the cars are strictly regulated and the championship is UK based! I think the academy is a great championship and there are a good mix of drivers in it, some are there to progress through the levels, others just to have fun. Any caterham racing is close and shows off driver talent as all the cars are equal and only set up really makes the difference other than driver.

perhaps look at a secondhand car and go into the roadsports championship as the academy is strictly for novices and the season is sprints, hillclimbs and races which isnt ideal for the aspiring professional driver.

topwelshman

2,093 posts

260 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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its not that expensive, I nearly did it in 2001 and its terrific value. £16,495 for everything including the car, you just need to sort your ARDS. The car's alone change hands for 12-15k so its bugger all in reality

Graham

16,376 posts

301 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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Finchy172 said:

Unfortunately you will need to put up a fair amount perhaps just under 25k maybe 35k to race a season in the academy as you will have to buy the car



I cant see how its going to take 10-20k to run the car at 2 sprints 2 hill climbs and 4 races, especially when your ards/medical and all the entry fees are included. unless your planning on going fully supported, stay in posh hotels and do a lot of damage..

id have thought 6k tops if you do a decent amount of testing.... Heck I ran the tuscan for 6.5k last year and that included an engine refresh

Back to the question in hand... Im sure the academy cars i've seen are carrying sponsorship, but the real problem is getting it. As an unknown in a specialist series You'll struggle to find a good reason for someone to come up with some cash, but good luck all the same...

Finchy172

389 posts

236 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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I never realised they were that cheap, i thought he was on about the roadsports not the academy as thats a few meetings really to get a taste of it.

Surely the cost of a roadsport, tyres, transportation, set up, fuel, will total near on 30k

anonymous-user

71 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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Finchy172 said:
I never realised they were that cheap, i thought he was on about the roadsports not the academy as thats a few meetings really to get a taste of it.

Surely the cost of a roadsport, tyres, transportation, set up, fuel, will total near on 30k



i would imgaine the roadsport guys are paying little more than £10K for a season presuming they are already in posession of a car!........ tyres will be regulated to a specific make and pretty hard wearing in comaprison to slicks, you can pay whatever you want to with regards to transportation etc but if you are doing it yourself and not through a team like hyperion et al, I reckon a budget of £1K a race all in would do the job in some luxury....

>> Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 28th February 16:14

Graham

16,376 posts

301 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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Even for roadsports 15k seams a lot thats about 1500 quid a meeting !!!!


with the tuscan we budget for about 500 quid per day

for travel,accom ( trailer), food& beer race car fuel(8mpg) entry fees ( 180-single race 240-double header)

plus probably acouple of k at the begining of the season for prep.


It does ramp up quickly though if you do a lot of testing or have a team supporting you.

The most we've spent was in 2004 when we won class A in the tasmin.
that year we spent about 10k. we did 10 races, 12 test days, 5 sets of tyres (2.5k) and had a engine refresh. the lowest we spent was 4.5k

Its not impossible to spend 15k( and some people have spent a lot more than that) especially if you have a few prangs.. but if your carefull and do most things yourself you can spend a lot less..


Finchy172

389 posts

236 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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My mate spent 5k in about 3 days at the formula ford festival in 2005

Hiring the Raysport car was quite cheap
4 sets of tyres
fuel
entry fees
other bits and bobs

he did come 2nd overall and it was his first weekends racing of 2005

chassis 33

6,194 posts

299 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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I briefly looked at the Academy last June, and went to talk to the chap who sorts it all out at Caterham Midlands. He was quite happy for cars to run sponsorship.

Regards
Iain

kickstart

1,096 posts

254 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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In answer to your question it is fine to gain sponsorship for the academy, although as stated by others gaining real sponsors is very, very difficult.

If you have any wealthy relatives who like/could be persuaded to like motor racing maybe they could lend you the money to enter the academy (with them owning the car) and then you could sell it at the end of the year, if you got a good price for the car it might only mean spending a few thousand. But in reality once you factor in buying a trailer, petrol, maybe insurance, some testing and a set or two of tyres you will probably have spent £10k (including the depreciation on the car).

If you are really commited to going racing and cannot afford Caterhams, why not try Formula Vee, this is a very popular single seater series and I think from memory you can hire a car for about £350 - £400 per race. The only other really bargain basement racing I can think of would be Stock Hatch in the 750MC and you could buy a car for that for about £2,500 upwards. Hve a look at the 750MC website.

Good luck

daydreamer

1,409 posts

274 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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There is also Toyota MR2 and Mazda MX5. Possibly slightly more expensive than stock hatch on paper, but possibly also less damage budget required

Graham

16,376 posts

301 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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Finchy172 said:
My mate spent 5k in about 3 days at the formula ford festival in 2005


ah well if your going to hire the car and run with a team thats really going to ramp the cost up... and 4 sets of slicks isnt going to be cheap.... I ran last season on one set of tyres, although this year we're running slicks and expecting to use 3-4 sets...


Graham

5k would also get you into a BGT race or see you in a reasonable ps1 car for the britcar 24h...

Graham

16,376 posts

301 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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daydreamer said:
Mazda MX5. but possibly also less damage budget required



Have you seen an max5 race dodgems....

Finchy172

389 posts

236 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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Graham said:
Finchy172 said:
My mate spent 5k in about 3 days at the formula ford festival in 2005


ah well if your going to hire the car and run with a team thats really going to ramp the cost up... and 4 sets of slicks isnt going to be cheap.... I ran last season on one set of tyres, although this year we're running slicks and expecting to use 3-4 sets...


Graham

5k would also get you into a BGT race or see you in a reasonable ps1 car for the britcar 24h...


he was hoping that would help with a drive in 06.
Hes been offered one in the new duratec 1600's and would probably be capable of wining it, but he has no money to start with.
If he could raise 20k then hes in.
But hes tried everywhere and no one wants to hand out money at all.

Graham

16,376 posts

301 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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Finchy172 said:


he was hoping that would help with a drive in 06.
Hes been offered one in the new duratec 1600's and would probably be capable of wining it, but he has no money to start with.
If he could raise 20k then hes in.
But hes tried everywhere and no one wants to hand out money at all.


20k for a ride in a new duratec sounds about right, has he looked at the silverstone race school scolarship? it may already have run for 06 though.... its one of those where you pay for the test etc and if your good enough you win the year in the srs series which was worth about 26k last time i checked

other than that if he's got no money he's a bit stuffed there doesnt seem to be much sponsorship money around at the moment.... lottery maybe ?

G

Finchy172

389 posts

236 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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Hes looking at about 50-60k for a full season with testing and engine rebuilds in the national duratec class

Such a shame as he obviously has talent as he didnt race all year and he mixed it with the big guns who had competed in about 30 races or more during the season

SKR

2,732 posts

253 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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grahame said:
Have you seen an max5 race dodgems....


With lots of novices and a full grid it is inevitable, although running a TVR I don't suppose you get that problem, what with just the 6 of you on the grid