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fozzi

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Saturday 22nd April 2006
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The Italian TV director was absolute rubbish.. missed all the important action at the end of qualifying!

James Allen getting all excited about Rubens improvement in performance, but it should be noted that as a Ferrari driver he'd have done numerous laps around Imola.. let's see what he does next time out!

Should be interesting to see if Renault and McLaren can up the stakes on race day and move through the field.

ps. anyone else notice the delay on the TV broadcast when compared to the formula1.com timing screen?

Eric Mc

124,933 posts

289 months

Saturday 22nd April 2006
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Give the Italian TV service a break. They've only been covering the San Marino GP for 26 years.

kevin ritson

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251 months

Saturday 22nd April 2006
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fozzi said:
The Italian TV director was absolute rubbish.. missed all the important action at the end of qualifying!


To be honest I didn't expect much else from the return of multi-lap qualifying. As for important action the last session seemed to be a 19 minute trackday with about 30 seconds of mild excitement that no-one could see.

That last session needs to be a 10-car one lap shootout. Isn't that what the Superbikes do (or at least did)?

fozzi

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Saturday 22nd April 2006
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kevin ritson said:
fozzi said:
The Italian TV director was absolute rubbish.. missed all the important action at the end of qualifying!


To be honest I didn't expect much else from the return of multi-lap qualifying. As for important action the last session seemed to be a 19 minute trackday with about 30 seconds of mild excitement that no-one could see.

That last session needs to be a 10-car one lap shootout. Isn't that what the Superbikes do (or at least did)?
Indeed.. in fact the World Superbikes superpole from Valencia is currently showing on Eurosport.

So what would you suggest?... Maybe a mixed format with the first two sessions as now, then a superpole for the top 10?

I think the whole re-fuelling thing needs to be sorted out.. It seems to me that it is this issue more than anything else that turns the final session into a complete farce!

>> Edited by fozzi on Saturday 22 April 15:35

kevin ritson

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Saturday 22nd April 2006
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fozzi said:

So what would you suggest?... Maybe a mixed format with the first two sessions as now, then a superpole for the top 10?


Yep - best of both worlds - 2 15-minute low-fuel sessions, then a 10-car shootout for pole - keep the fuel regs as at least it gives some opportunity for overtaking. I've never been a fan of fuel stops but can't see the FIA losing these. This way if you're competing, spectating at the circuit or watching on TV you get something worth watching.

>> Edited by kevin ritson on Saturday 22 April 18:02

Mr Beckerman

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251 months

Saturday 22nd April 2006
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I still think MotoGP have the the best idea for qualifying.

There you go lads, there's the track, there's and hour, knock yourselves out and set the quickest time. As many laps as you like, if you want to use all your tyres, fair enough. Oh, and refuel the car before the start of the race, keep it down to fumes in quali.

I know it's pure fantasy, but why shouldn't it be like that? Fastest driver in that hour starts at the front. Of course, we'd still get the ITV 'this is how quali works' talk every race.

kevin ritson

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Saturday 22nd April 2006
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Problem with is how could you expect overtaking when the cars are on the grid in order of speed? With last years regs (or in the old non-refuelling days) that wasn't a problem as there was more to the race than flooring it everywhere.

Sure, reverse grids can be a recipe for disaster but a little mixing up due to strategy can go a long way.

baz1985

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269 months

Saturday 22nd April 2006
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Honda, Ferrari & Toyota are lighter than Alonso, McLaren duo and Webber. If you look how early the Hondas and Ferraris came in to to put new tyres on in the final session it gives the game away. I reckon Webber is 1 stopping- come on Williams we can get a podium and give a big f85k off to the manufacturer teams. Honda don't do race pace, Ralf and Trulli get bored, Massa will crash, Alonso will have a failure of some sort. Michael to win, Kimi 2nd, Webber 3rd... JPM will fall asleep too hit a backmarker and finish 4th. Oh God I'm getting carried away. Anyway come on Williams!

Mr Beckerman

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Saturday 22nd April 2006
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kevin ritson said:
Problem with is how could you expect overtaking when the cars are on the grid in order of speed? With last years regs (or in the old non-refuelling days) that wasn't a problem as there was more to the race than flooring it everywhere.

Sure, reverse grids can be a recipe for disaster but a little mixing up due to strategy can go a long way.


Indeed, you couldn't say for absolute certain that you would get overtaking, but, if you took away the re-fuelling (I know, another fantasy, as it's probably 'too dangerous' to have big fuel tanks) there's the added dilema of 'do I go quick and sacrifice fuel economy which equals problems later in the race', or 'do I let the fast guy go through and rely on the fact that he'll get into fuel problems later'.

Taking away the re-fuelling would also swing the pitstops back into the hands of the mechanics. Mclaren used to change all 4 tyres in little over 4 seconds, but now the fuel takes longer to go in, so the tyre changers aren't under quite so much pressure.

Of course, we shouldn't forget that it stopped being a sport in the purest sense of the word a while ago to become a business, but that doesn't stop us dreaming.

fozzi

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Sunday 23rd April 2006
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Love the comment from Brundle regarding the Albers incident, "he sits quite low in the car"... Is that a new way of saying that someone is vertically challenged?!

>> Edited by fozzi on Sunday 23 April 13:09

Piglet

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Sunday 23rd April 2006
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I liked Albers' body language when he came out of the car - nothing wrong with him except being very pi$$ed off!!

JonRB

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Sunday 23rd April 2006
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If you're watching the race live whilst near a computer, don't forget the Live Racing Timing service at www.formula.com

Piglet

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Sunday 23rd April 2006
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JonRB said:
If you're watching the race live whilst near a computer, don't forget the Live Racing Timing service at www.formula.com


I'm juggling F1 Gp, bikes at Le Mans and BTCC coverage as well as trying to catch up on some work - I can't manage anything else!!

The TV is great for motorsport at the moment!!

rushdriver

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Sunday 23rd April 2006
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Albers is not a happy chappy is he?

Has a fair point though

John

apache

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Sunday 23rd April 2006
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For England, St George and all that, it would be wonderful if Button could deliver the goods today

fozzi

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Sunday 23rd April 2006
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JonRB said:
If you're watching the race live whilst near a computer, don't forget the Live Racing Timing service at www.formula1.com
fixed your link for you!

JonRB

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Sunday 23rd April 2006
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Oops.

Piglet

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Sunday 23rd April 2006
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apache said:
For England, St George and all that, it would be wonderful if Button could deliver the goods today


Look, there go the pigs

fozzi

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Sunday 23rd April 2006
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Alonso is defo going past Button on the pit-stop.. but so much for the Rubens revival, he's currently lapping a second a lap slower than Jenson.

JonRB

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Sunday 23rd April 2006
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It's been a slow race so far, but Schumi's loss of pace on this stint could provide a little spice