RE: Cars, bikes and planes to race
RE: Cars, bikes and planes to race
Thursday 27th July 2006

Cars, bikes and planes to race

Air racer challenges F1's Coulthard


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British pilot Steve Jones has challenged Red Bull’s motorsport heroes to a duel.

Aiming to prove that air racing is the F1 of the skies, Jones will race Red Bull Racing’s David Coulthard and Red Bull Honda superbike rider Jonathan Rea around the track at Silverstone.

It's an attempt to prove that his plane is as quick and nimble as DC’s F1 car and Rea’s 1,000cc bike -- pilot, driver and rider will race one full lap of Silverstone’s Grand Prix Circuit.

Jones said: “Everyone knows how well equipped the F1 car and motorbike are to handle the tough corners at Silverstone, but I wanted to prove that air racing can be just as precise. We regularly experience forces of up to 10G when rounding pylons during the Red Bull Air Races which is more than an F1 car. I think people will be surprised at how nimble my plane can be.”

Coulthard said: “I’ve seen what Steve and the other pilots who take part in the Red Bull Air Race World Series are capable of. Their speed and precision is breathtaking. However, I’ve been racing at Silverstone for years and know the circuit extremely well so Steve shouldn’t be counting on a win.”

Rea said: “This is by no means a two horse race – I’m quietly confident that my bike will be able to catch Steve and David out on the corners. The bike’s been going really well recently so you shouldn’t underestimate the power of two wheels.”

It happens on 2 September 2006.

About Red Bull air racing

The objective is to navigate a challenging obstacle course in the sky in the fastest possible time. Pilots fly individually against the clock and have to complete tight turns through a slalom course consisting of specially designed 20m high pylons, known as ‘air gates’.

The race is about speed and precision. The slightest mistake can result in penalty points.

Flying low at speeds of over 250mph while negotiating the air gates requires immense skill. Only a certain number of pilots in the world possess it, so they are hand selected based on expertise and experience.

These pilots are at the top of their game. They have to be – the race exerts huge demands on their flying abilities and they have to withstand forces of up to 10G. There is little room for error.

What makes the air race exciting and interesting for spectators is the proximity of the contest to the crowds. Low level flying on a relatively compact course means that people can really experience all the action close-up.

The idea of the Air Race was conceived by Red Bull who then approached renowned Hungarian pilot Peter Beseynei to help them refine the concept. The very first Red Bull Air Race took place at AirPower in Zeltweg, Austria in 2003 and was hailed a great success. It was clear that there was a huge potential for the competition. Subsequent races were then held in Hungary, England and the USA and since then it has evolved into its current format, the Red Bull Air Race World Series.

The first series kicked off in 2005, taking place in seven venues across the world with 10 internationally acclaimed pilots competing.

Eleven pilots will take part in the 2006 Red Bull Air Race World Series in nine international locations.

Air races have their roots in the US but unlike those contests where the objective was purely about speed, the Red Bull air race brings skill into the challenge. They are using some of the lightest, agile and responsive planes that exist, but ultimately it’s the pilot’s stamina and skill that determines who will be crowned the next Red Bull Air Race World Series champion.

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LovelyLara

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41 posts

249 months

Thursday 27th July 2006
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Contrary to what is stated in the article, I doubt that the F1 car / bike / plane race around Silverstone will take place at Longleat on 2nd September!

Obviously it will take place at Silverstone but WHEN??? I WANT TO GO AND WATCH!!! Please tell me when!!!

r988

7,495 posts

253 months

Thursday 27th July 2006
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should be more interesting than the usual, and overdone, runway drag racing

Woody

2,189 posts

308 months

Thursday 27th July 2006
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Think I read on another site (which I can't remember ) that it's gonna happen Monday at Silverstone.

Chris

LovelyLara

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41 posts

249 months

Thursday 27th July 2006
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Have you noticed that the article has been edited to remove the "at Longleat"? I'm on hold to Silverstone at the moment to find out..... Hope its not 2nd Sept as I'll be at Longleat for the air races!

Bah! Have been on hold for 5 mins and have to hang up! If anyone does find out, please post!

Trackside

1,777 posts

257 months

Thursday 27th July 2006
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Seem to remember a similar stunt being performed at Donington years ago between a military helicopter of some description and a racing TVR Tuscan. The chopper had to follow the layout of the circuit including the Fogarty Esses and the Melbourne Hairpin...which was nice! Sadly, it didn't have to fly under the Dunlop bridge though.

I think the TVR won (but I'm willing to be proved wrong by anyone who has a better memory than me!).

TVRCC PR

127 posts

245 months

Friday 28th July 2006
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Yes you're right. It was a Royal Navy Lynx helicopter and the Tuscan narrowly won. It was also done in Melbourne in 1986, again between a Lynx and a F1 car (I think Senna). On that occasion the Lynx won but apparently there was a protest because the Lynx was alleged to have cut one corner, but then knowing the crew that flew that aircraft I wouldn't be surprised if they did!

It will be interesting to see how they do it with a FW aircraft as in all the races between cars and heliicopters, both have started from a stationary position...

profstoff

1,272 posts

251 months

Friday 28th July 2006
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TVRCC PR said:
Yes you're right. It was a Royal Navy Lynx helicopter and the Tuscan narrowly won. It was also done in Melbourne in 1986, again between a Lynx and a F1 car (I think Senna). On that occasion the Lynx won but apparently there was a protest because the Lynx was alleged to have cut one corner, but then knowing the crew that flew that aircraft I wouldn't be surprised if they did!

It will be interesting to see how they do it with a FW aircraft as in all the races between cars and heliicopters, both have started from a stationary position...

So the Tuscan beat the Lynx and the Lynx beat an F1 car. Does that make the Tuscan faster than an F1 car.

RB Will

10,695 posts

264 months

Friday 28th July 2006
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well i dont think the bike has a hope in hell against the F1 car

killer2005

20,479 posts

252 months

Friday 28th July 2006
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Oh I'd love to see this

FortJefferson

8,237 posts

246 months

Sunday 30th July 2006
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This is not a race, it's a Red Bull advert. The artical is a joke "the pilot want's to prove his plane is as nimble as an F1 car "and" a bike" WTF is that all about. Unless they let the plane have a flying start the F1 will be half way round before it take's off, and if they do that then it's not a race. John

Wayniac

25 posts

240 months

Monday 31st July 2006
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If it's not a standing start it's not a fair race. If it's a standing start the F1 car will easily win.

LovelyLara

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249 months

Tuesday 1st August 2006
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....and guess what? We've missed it - they did it this morning at Silverstone. Bah. So Woody was right....

Edited by LovelyLara on Tuesday 1st August 12:22

FourWheelDrift

91,940 posts

308 months

Tuesday 1st August 2006
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www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=293948&f=42&h=0

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Tuesday 1st August 12:33