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I've just acquired a Nissan Skyline R32 GTR that I fancy doing something competitive with next year.
There are a few series that cater for the Japanese performance marques, such as Time Attack and TOTB, but I find them all a bit boring, as you simply don't get enough time on the track.
Yes there are a plethora of track days around the country, but again it falls down as there's no element of competition.
Some sort of no holds barred circuit racing would be ideal, but in the MSA nanny state we have in this country there's not much chance of that.
So, any suggestions?
The Skyline currently has 650bhp to play with, and handling/braking to match.
There are a few series that cater for the Japanese performance marques, such as Time Attack and TOTB, but I find them all a bit boring, as you simply don't get enough time on the track.
Yes there are a plethora of track days around the country, but again it falls down as there's no element of competition.
Some sort of no holds barred circuit racing would be ideal, but in the MSA nanny state we have in this country there's not much chance of that.
So, any suggestions?
The Skyline currently has 650bhp to play with, and handling/braking to match.
oh dear, have you spent too long on the X Box? what the hell is no holds barred racing?
you have two choices. sell it and buy a f1 stock car or keep it and accept the factmost people (Plato et al excluded) race with the intention of keeping the car in a working order come the chequered flag.
does it have a roll cage etc?!? if not you are resigned to track days and sprints/hillclimbs, if it does, well there are a few "libre" style events around the country, Castle Combe GTs being one, the BARC organise one too i think where "anything goes"
you have two choices. sell it and buy a f1 stock car or keep it and accept the factmost people (Plato et al excluded) race with the intention of keeping the car in a working order come the chequered flag.
does it have a roll cage etc?!? if not you are resigned to track days and sprints/hillclimbs, if it does, well there are a few "libre" style events around the country, Castle Combe GTs being one, the BARC organise one too i think where "anything goes"
pablo said:
oh dear, have you spent too long on the X Box? what the hell is no holds barred racing?
you have two choices. sell it and buy a f1 stock car or keep it and accept the factmost people (Plato et al excluded) race with the intention of keeping the car in a working order come the chequered flag.
does it have a roll cage etc?!? if not you are resigned to track days and sprints/hillclimbs, if it does, well there are a few "libre" style events around the country, Castle Combe GTs being one, the BARC organise one too i think where "anything goes"
you have two choices. sell it and buy a f1 stock car or keep it and accept the factmost people (Plato et al excluded) race with the intention of keeping the car in a working order come the chequered flag.
does it have a roll cage etc?!? if not you are resigned to track days and sprints/hillclimbs, if it does, well there are a few "libre" style events around the country, Castle Combe GTs being one, the BARC organise one too i think where "anything goes"
A skyline could be at home drifting.
www.driftworks.co.uk/index.php
Oh dear, someone thinks I'm part of the playstation generation! You couldn't be more wrong there.
Sell it, you're having a laugh!
My reference to no holds barred racing was in the power stakes, as the good old MSA likes nothing more than to restrict it.
Drifting - what a waste of good rubber, definitely not my cuppa!
Perhaps you need educating on the virtues of the Nissan Skyline R32 GTR? It was a designed and manufactured for the sole purpose of circuit racing. It was NOT a production car later adapted for racing!
Here endeth the lesson.
Sell it, you're having a laugh!
My reference to no holds barred racing was in the power stakes, as the good old MSA likes nothing more than to restrict it.
Drifting - what a waste of good rubber, definitely not my cuppa!
Perhaps you need educating on the virtues of the Nissan Skyline R32 GTR? It was a designed and manufactured for the sole purpose of circuit racing. It was NOT a production car later adapted for racing!
Here endeth the lesson.
As said a couple of times, Castle Combe Gt's would be right up your street, there is sometimes a skyline that turns up, but haven't seen it for a while.
Might be worth speaking to Steve Bruns at the Circuit, all the info should be here, www.castlecombeciruit.co.uk
And it always amuses me seeing something the size of a skyline next to a radiacl or jade!!
Might be worth speaking to Steve Bruns at the Circuit, all the info should be here, www.castlecombeciruit.co.uk
And it always amuses me seeing something the size of a skyline next to a radiacl or jade!!
GTR_Cymru said:
My reference to no holds barred racing was in the power stakes, as the good old MSA likes nothing more than to restrict it.
The MSA does NOT make a point of trying to restrict power, it tries to ensure parity for all competitors, which is why there are scrutineers at every race, and why they often seal components (engines, gearboxes, etc) at the start of the season. They try to place the emphasis on driving ability, a point you seem to be missing.
If you are after a series that has "no holds barred" on the power stakes then you might try the Dunlop Track and Race cars, but then you'd be up against the likes of Rod Birley who have very powerful cars AND are pretty handy behind the wheel. So, you'll get your backside spanked.
GTR_Cymru said:
Here endeth the lesson.
Comments like that make you sound like an arse who's got an imported Skyline and wants to 'prove' himself to the local chav community. When you've actually got onto the track then you can give us more lessons, until then you're better off at the local Halfords and ASDA car parks showing off your 'rude' car.
All IMHO, of course...
GarrettMacD said:
GTR_Cymru said:
My reference to no holds barred racing was in the power stakes, as the good old MSA likes nothing more than to restrict it.
The MSA does NOT make a point of trying to restrict power, it tries to ensure parity for all competitors, which is why there are scrutineers at every race, and why they often seal components (engines, gearboxes, etc) at the start of the season. They try to place the emphasis on driving ability, a point you seem to be missing.
If you are after a series that has "no holds barred" on the power stakes then you might try the Dunlop Track and Race cars, but then you'd be up against the likes of Rod Birley who have very powerful cars AND are pretty handy behind the wheel. So, you'll get your backside spanked.
The problem with "No holds barred racing" is that it becomes cheque book racing and most of the time there will be someone prepared to spend more money than yourself.
BARC also do a sports and saloon car championship which has everything from a Honda Civic to a 600bhp group C racer. Never realy seen the point in it myself, just a bit of a glorified track day.
Alternativly you could try hill climbs or drag racing.
GarrettMacD said:
Comments like that make you sound like an arse who's got an imported Skyline and wants to 'prove' himself to the local chav community. When you've actually got onto the track then you can give us more lessons, until then you're better off at the local Halfords and ASDA car parks showing off your 'rude' car.
In my experience very few so called petrolheads know the history of the R32 GTR Nissan Skyline, and your obviously a case in point.
The popularity of the marque and its successors (R33 and R34) has massively increased due to the playstation generation, and of course the availability and affordability of Grey imports.
To some people there is now a Chav connection with the Skyline, but I think you'll find that it's pretty much restricted to a Skyline R33 GTS and its derivatives (single turbo, RWD).
The R32 GTR is the true thoroughbred, and in my experience is the true enthusiasts choice due to its racing heritage.
Comments like yours are not unexpected, you've simply made an assumption, and we all know what that means!
combemarshal said:
As said a couple of times, Castle Combe Gt's would be right up your street, there is sometimes a skyline that turns up, but haven't seen it for a while.
Might be worth speaking to Steve Bruns at the Circuit, all the info should be here, www.castlecombeciruit.co.uk
And it always amuses me seeing something the size of a skyline next to a radiacl or jade!!
Might be worth speaking to Steve Bruns at the Circuit, all the info should be here, www.castlecombeciruit.co.uk
And it always amuses me seeing something the size of a skyline next to a radiacl or jade!!
Thanks for your positive input.
Graham said:
There are a number of sports and saloon series that would be happy to have you
northern sports and saloons DDMC
southern sports and saloons BARC se
Castle coombe Gt's
possibly the 750 mc roadsports.
or any of these your going to need a full cage
G
northern sports and saloons DDMC
southern sports and saloons BARC se
Castle coombe Gt's
possibly the 750 mc roadsports.
or any of these your going to need a full cage
G
Thanks Graham for your positive contribution.
I am pleased to say that it already has a full cage fitted, and naturally I would expect this as a minimum requirement for any serious form of motorsport, likewise an FIA seat and 4 point harness.
GTR_Cymru said:
I am pleased to say that it already has a full cage fitted, and naturally I would expect this as a minimum requirement for any serious form of motorsport, likewise an FIA seat and 4 point harness.
Get a copy of the Blue book, read Section Q, look at your car, look at the roll cage mountings, seatbelt mountings then read Section Q again. It is very detailed about what you must do for each motorsport discipline. You may also want to get a copy of the Red book so you can find a local scrutineer and ask them to look the car over before you take it to an event.
I don't know the exact safety requirements for circuit racing, I do sprints and hillclimbs (where incidentally you can have as much power as you want/can afford), but you will almost certainly need at least a plumbed in fire extinguisher, external cutout swtich and extinguisher trigger in addition to the things you listed.
Second (or third) the recommendation of the Combe GTs.
Thanks for your input.
For other interested parties the technical regulations of the Castle Combe GT series can be found here:
www.castlecombecircuit.co.uk/Castle%20Combe%20Special%20GT%20Regulations%202006.pdf
This looks like a real possibility, the opening statement got my attention "“Anything goes” is perhaps a slight exaggeration, but if you have a car which doesn’t seem to fit in anywhere else, then the Castle Combe Circuit’s Special GT championship could be the answer."
Having a car that doesn't seem to it in anywhere else sums up my feeling pretty well.
For other interested parties the technical regulations of the Castle Combe GT series can be found here:
www.castlecombecircuit.co.uk/Castle%20Combe%20Special%20GT%20Regulations%202006.pdf
This looks like a real possibility, the opening statement got my attention "“Anything goes” is perhaps a slight exaggeration, but if you have a car which doesn’t seem to fit in anywhere else, then the Castle Combe Circuit’s Special GT championship could be the answer."
Having a car that doesn't seem to it in anywhere else sums up my feeling pretty well.
GTR_Cymru said:
Graham said:
There are a number of sports and saloon series that would be happy to have you
northern sports and saloons DDMC
southern sports and saloons BARC se
Castle coombe Gt's
possibly the 750 mc roadsports.
or any of these your going to need a full cage
G
northern sports and saloons DDMC
southern sports and saloons BARC se
Castle coombe Gt's
possibly the 750 mc roadsports.
or any of these your going to need a full cage
G
Thanks Graham for your positive contribution.
I am pleased to say that it already has a full cage fitted, and naturally I would expect this as a minimum requirement for any serious form of motorsport, likewise an FIA seat and 4 point harness.
Is it not a 6 point harness you need for circuit racing?
I would look in the blur book book I can't find it.
Have you thought about sprinting or hillclimbing? Something like that would I should think be pretty good at either of these, with classs to suit, I know there is a guy in the South West with a Evo V that is tuned to the nuts who hillclimbs.
Less chance of damge than racing it as well.
I still think rallying one would be fun!
Nic Jones said:
Have you thought about sprinting or hillclimbing? Something like that would I should think be pretty good at either of these, with classs to suit, I know there is a guy in the South West with a Evo V that is tuned to the nuts who hillclimbs.
Barry Squibb? Former rallycrosser. He's done a few of our sprints when I've been clerking, that car is utterly nuts
. His class has become a bit of a race for second place.Gassing Station | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff