Have you made your pledge yet...
Discussion
I've put my pledge on the car, though I already only use energy saving light bulbs at home, so not really a pledge, more of an acknowledgement that I do my bit 
Interesting to see the digital car later in March...
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Interesting to see the digital car later in March...
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deevlash said:
I pledge to flush my toilet for no good reason, I pledge to drive fast with just myself in the car, I pledge to eat steak from farting cows and I pledge not to give rats ass about all this hippy crap.
Wow, you're so cool. You sound just like Clarkson and he's the bestest.
MrKipling43 said:
deevlash said:
I pledge to flush my toilet for no good reason, I pledge to drive fast with just myself in the car, I pledge to eat steak from farting cows and I pledge not to give rats ass about all this hippy crap.
Wow, you're so cool. You sound just like Clarkson and he's the bestest.
he sounds like me
I am in no way a hippy.
If everyone made a small effort in being a little more greener in their daily lives, we would then be able to attack governments with a stronger argument for their stealth taxes which are becoming more clever and devious each year...
Think out of the box for one moment. The government wants to encourage households to recycle more, but a large number of the population couldn't give a shit. So what does the government do? It is looking at introducing a TAX on our waste. The more black bags you leave out for collection, the more your TAX bill will be.
As I said, I'm no hippy, but with a family of four, we recycle a hell of a lot of our waste and can get away with just one black bin bag a week in the bin, and that's mainly due to nappies from the little one, and leads me onto another (non-motoring issue).
Surely to solve the landfill issue with nappies, they should create bio-degradable nappies, afterall they don't need a long shelf life do they?
Back to the original point, if we all pull together, we really can make a difference, however I also feel that governments and think tanks and the green lobby groups are targeting the issues from the wrong angle.
We all know that fossel fuels are running out, so why oh why, instead of worrying about saving fuel/energy, why don't we start tapping into a freely available source of energy that is all around us? Sun, Wind and Water. I guess it would be hard for the commercial giants to claim their rights or ownership to the sun, wind and the water and therefore do not foresee how they can secure large sums of money from us all to pay their share-holders, what a shame!!!
The other thing is, governments can't TAX you on free renewable energy can they, so I know which route I'd like to go down...
I would be quite happy to have a large five bedroom house with TVs running in every room, all the lights on, garden lit up at night, a collection of stunning not yet designed/produced electric high performance cars such as those featured in I-ROBOT knowning that all that energy I was using was free, clean and completely renewable, safe in the knowledge that my personal solar panels and micro wind turbine would be able to offer me up more free energey in the morning, which I would need in order to run all those fancy electric gadgets in the kitchen, while the kids play on their PSVR machines (PSVR = PlayStation VirtualReality - it will appear after the PS4 becomes old hat!).
If everyone made a small effort in being a little more greener in their daily lives, we would then be able to attack governments with a stronger argument for their stealth taxes which are becoming more clever and devious each year...
Think out of the box for one moment. The government wants to encourage households to recycle more, but a large number of the population couldn't give a shit. So what does the government do? It is looking at introducing a TAX on our waste. The more black bags you leave out for collection, the more your TAX bill will be.
As I said, I'm no hippy, but with a family of four, we recycle a hell of a lot of our waste and can get away with just one black bin bag a week in the bin, and that's mainly due to nappies from the little one, and leads me onto another (non-motoring issue).
Surely to solve the landfill issue with nappies, they should create bio-degradable nappies, afterall they don't need a long shelf life do they?
Back to the original point, if we all pull together, we really can make a difference, however I also feel that governments and think tanks and the green lobby groups are targeting the issues from the wrong angle.
We all know that fossel fuels are running out, so why oh why, instead of worrying about saving fuel/energy, why don't we start tapping into a freely available source of energy that is all around us? Sun, Wind and Water. I guess it would be hard for the commercial giants to claim their rights or ownership to the sun, wind and the water and therefore do not foresee how they can secure large sums of money from us all to pay their share-holders, what a shame!!!
The other thing is, governments can't TAX you on free renewable energy can they, so I know which route I'd like to go down...
I would be quite happy to have a large five bedroom house with TVs running in every room, all the lights on, garden lit up at night, a collection of stunning not yet designed/produced electric high performance cars such as those featured in I-ROBOT knowning that all that energy I was using was free, clean and completely renewable, safe in the knowledge that my personal solar panels and micro wind turbine would be able to offer me up more free energey in the morning, which I would need in order to run all those fancy electric gadgets in the kitchen, while the kids play on their PSVR machines (PSVR = PlayStation VirtualReality - it will appear after the PS4 becomes old hat!).
Edited by sdw2003 on Thursday 1st March 00:10
NOTHING is free.
All energy useage has an environmental impact.
Those who think that making use of sun, wind, tide, or nuclear are blinkering themselves to the damage THOSE types of energy generation cause. And, to cap it all, very few of these methods are genuinely economic viable - but for a lot of environmentalists, economics is a "bad" thing anyway.
Whilst I am not against research and development into alternative energy generation technologies. However, don't anywone kid themselves that any of these alternative methods are going to be anything like as efficient and economical as the use of fossil fuels for a very long time to come - if ever.
All energy useage has an environmental impact.
Those who think that making use of sun, wind, tide, or nuclear are blinkering themselves to the damage THOSE types of energy generation cause. And, to cap it all, very few of these methods are genuinely economic viable - but for a lot of environmentalists, economics is a "bad" thing anyway.
Whilst I am not against research and development into alternative energy generation technologies. However, don't anywone kid themselves that any of these alternative methods are going to be anything like as efficient and economical as the use of fossil fuels for a very long time to come - if ever.
Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 1st March 08:48
All Max had to do was say "you will run your cars on bioethanol and use only bio-derived based oils in F1" and it would have made them "green" in one hit.
On the fuels front, the ruling from the FIA is that they have to work towards using a 5% blend of Bio-Ethanol by 2010 or something like that. What?
I think the word "Greenwash" was used in Autosnort today...
So, my pledge is to ignore any of the boll8cks from the Honda marketing people, just like I have done for many many years. Though I must say that I did quite like the thought that went into some of their TV ads - especially the Accord. It wouldn't get me to buy one of their cars. Hell would freeze over first.
On the fuels front, the ruling from the FIA is that they have to work towards using a 5% blend of Bio-Ethanol by 2010 or something like that. What?
I think the word "Greenwash" was used in Autosnort today...
So, my pledge is to ignore any of the boll8cks from the Honda marketing people, just like I have done for many many years. Though I must say that I did quite like the thought that went into some of their TV ads - especially the Accord. It wouldn't get me to buy one of their cars. Hell would freeze over first.
Does anyone seriously believe that the so called green taxes have anything to do with saving the environment? Come off it, if britains carbon output was suddenly to become zero overnight then it would take 36 days for china to wipe out the saving anyway. Its all about getting more tax out of hard working middle classes to pay for an increasingly liberal society which allows people to think working for a living and making a contribution to society is somehow optional. Global warming is a sham, we can no more control the temperature of our planet than we can its orbit.
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