Another interesting track bites the dust
Another interesting track bites the dust
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10 Pence Short

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32,880 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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It appears now that Magny Cours is of the menu for the 2008 season, maeaning yet another track with some interesting features gets wiped off the calendar.

No doubt one of Tilkes dullorama circuits will be able to take its place.

FourWheelDrift

92,237 posts

313 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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Magny Cours despite it's smooth surface and "interesting" track has never been a favourite because of it's location. Maybe they'll ask Bernie if they can use his Paul Ricard track instead, but only if it's the full track and not the cut down version.

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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Can't say I've ever been a fan of Magny Cours, France has been blessed with some fine circuits over the years but this isn't one of them.

10 Pence Short

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32,880 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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I liked it for its great moments down into the hairpin, there always seemed to be good battles throughout the race into and out of it.

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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DC on Schuey into the hairpin - best F1 moment in years

Belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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Magny Cours was built for political reasons as payback by the president as a favour to the regional politicians. No decent hotels nearby, no airport, the infrastructure was weak and atmosphere neutral. It also lost a fortune and the French have fallen out of love with F1. Lets just hope they keep Silverstone!

iain_cam

689 posts

259 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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That's a shame. Although MC was never the most exciting of races, it was the first GP that I went to!!

Mannginger

10,254 posts

286 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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Bugger - any links to the news? This is potetnially going to be troublesome for a friend of mine.

Cheers

Phil

racefan_uk

2,935 posts

285 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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FourWheelDrift said:
Magny Cours despite it's smooth surface and "interesting" track has never been a favourite because of it's location. Maybe they'll ask Bernie if they can use his Paul Ricard track instead, but only if it's the full track and not the cut down version.


They can't use Paul Ricard for the Gran Prix as it can't hold enough punters. It's only licensed for about 2500, or some small figure. There's only one spectator banking there and bugger all else. It wouldn't look good on the TV either with all the coloured sections around the track.

There's a rumour, started by Bernie, in Autosport today, that he's always wanted to hold the French GP on the street of Paris.

You pay for it Bernie, I'll go watch it!

Belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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The advantage of Magny Cours was that the tracked looped back on itself, so for a reltively cheap price you could see lots of th track, which made it good value for money for ticketholders!

telecat

8,528 posts

270 months

Friday 30th March 2007
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Bernie must be fuming!!! He didn't threaten the track with anything and they call it off.rolleyes

williamp

20,380 posts

302 months

Friday 30th March 2007
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well, they've still got Monaco*

If they didnt hold the race at Magny, where could they? Rouen would be good, but impossible. And with Reims slowly disintegrating, that leave the Le Mans Bugati circuit. Hmmm...

*I know, I know but....

AlexS

1,593 posts

261 months

Friday 30th March 2007
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racefan_uk said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Magny Cours despite it's smooth surface and "interesting" track has never been a favourite because of it's location. Maybe they'll ask Bernie if they can use his Paul Ricard track instead, but only if it's the full track and not the cut down version.


They can't use Paul Ricard for the Gran Prix as it can't hold enough punters. It's only licensed for about 2500, or some small figure. There's only one spectator banking there and bugger all else. It wouldn't look good on the TV either with all the coloured sections around the track.

There's a rumour, started by Bernie, in Autosport today, that he's always wanted to hold the French GP on the street of Paris.

You pay for it Bernie, I'll go watch it!


There are no (or virtually none) grandstands at Paul Ricard. They held an FIA GT race there last year wiht only invited guests in attendence and it was just wrong. The track layout is confusing as well.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Friday 30th March 2007
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France has used more separate venues for its GP than any other country.

None of the other venues used in the past are now suitable for modern F1. They are either closed or not up to scratch.

Omitted from the list mentioned above is Dijon - which was the venue for the famous Villeneuve/Arnoux wheel banging contest in 1979. Of course, that was the "Swiss" GP.


Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 30th March 13:57

FourWheelDrift

92,237 posts

313 months

Friday 30th March 2007
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Might sound strange but the way current F1 cars are designed and where they can normally overtake on other circuits I think an alternative with the right spectator areas could be the Le Mans Bugatti circuit that they used in 1967. It's changed a bit since then though but I think those slow stop start corners might work now.

homer3uk

454 posts

260 months

Friday 30th March 2007
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FourWheelDrift said:
Might sound strange but the way current F1 cars are designed and where they can normally overtake on other circuits I think an alternative with the right spectator areas could be the Le Mans Bugatti circuit that they used in 1967. It's changed a bit since then though but I think those slow stop start corners might work now.

I agree, Le Mans has the info-structure and spectator area's. Rich in motor sport history and a well set up Bugati circuit it would be a nice adition to the callander. BUT!!! If Bernie wants to change things he will. A Paris GP would suit his style but we also have to consider the fact that Europe may loose another GP to Asia. He has thretened the British GP so I doubt he'll think twice about the French. It'll all come down to Sponsorship and Politics.

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Friday 30th March 2007
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now Pau - that's a circuit - well street circuit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Pr
First race 1901 !



chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Friday 30th March 2007
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racefan_uk said:
They can't use Paul Ricard for the Gran Prix as it can't hold enough punters. It's only licensed for about 2500, or some small figure. There's only one spectator banking there and bugger all else. It wouldn't look good on the TV either with all the coloured sections around the track.


Do they need any punters though? Yes the circuit relies on them to pay Bernies fee, but if Bernie owns the track is there a fee to pay?

FourWheelDrift

92,237 posts

313 months

Friday 30th March 2007
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chrisgr31 said:

Do they need any punters though? Yes the circuit relies on them to pay Bernies fee, but if Bernie owns the track is there a fee to pay?



Actually rather curiously I think he'd have to pay a fee to himself to host the race at his own track (or whoever owns the F1 rights these days, some bank probably).