"Stop the cock" campaign gains Ross Brawn
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Surely James Allen must go now Ross Brawn has added his two-penneth...
Brawn, currently on a sabbatical from Formula One, has not returned to the paddock since last year, and has instead watched the first three races of the season on television.
The Briton says he has been left frustrated by the experience, and admits he misses the amount of information he used to have available to him.
"It's definitely a new experience for me to watch it with a different perspective and also the quality of commentators on English TV," Brawn told Autosport magazine.
"I sympathise with you - it's a very frustrating business to watch F1 on British TV.
"We're used to having all the data and all the split times and we can see the race developing. What's clear when you watch it on the TV is that you don't get that information.
"Our commentators don't seem very good at conveying what is going on. It's very frustrating to watch a race and not have that information which is available to everyone at the track. So condolences for that."
Brawn, currently on a sabbatical from Formula One, has not returned to the paddock since last year, and has instead watched the first three races of the season on television.
The Briton says he has been left frustrated by the experience, and admits he misses the amount of information he used to have available to him.
"It's definitely a new experience for me to watch it with a different perspective and also the quality of commentators on English TV," Brawn told Autosport magazine.
"I sympathise with you - it's a very frustrating business to watch F1 on British TV.
"We're used to having all the data and all the split times and we can see the race developing. What's clear when you watch it on the TV is that you don't get that information.
"Our commentators don't seem very good at conveying what is going on. It's very frustrating to watch a race and not have that information which is available to everyone at the track. So condolences for that."
Maybe Ross Brawn could do the commentating if he can get access to more information and relay it back to us. I'm sure he's quite bored if all he has to do on Sunday afternoons is watch the racing. 
Although his voice reminds me too much of Peter O'Sullevan and I'd keep expecting to say something "as they come into the final furlong it's Ferrari and McLaren neck and neck, Raikonnen has really got the whip flying now urging his horse on."
Although his voice reminds me too much of Peter O'Sullevan and I'd keep expecting to say something "as they come into the final furlong it's Ferrari and McLaren neck and neck, Raikonnen has really got the whip flying now urging his horse on."
Having live timing up on the computer screen from the F1 website whilst watching the race on TV does add a new dimension to the races, but I don't know how ITV could convey that amount of info on TV without choppping the TV picture size to about half.
I guess a good start would be some kind of tickertape running across the top as you get in Nascar coverage with positions and gaps on each lap, but you wouldnt be able to show that much information in that, so a seperate screen would still be worthwhile.
I guess a good start would be some kind of tickertape running across the top as you get in Nascar coverage with positions and gaps on each lap, but you wouldnt be able to show that much information in that, so a seperate screen would still be worthwhile.
Locoblade said:
Having live timing up on the computer screen from the F1 website whilst watching the race on TV does add a new dimension to the races, but I don't know how ITV could convey that amount of info on TV without choppping the TV picture size to about half.
Use up the black border they have on the left and right of the widescreen picture. I can't remember if they are transmitting full widescreen pictures this year or not or doing the cheap widescreen on 4:3 screen version like you get with Motors TV or TCM.
No objection to something that could rid my set of "the cock", but I would not like to see F1 turned into a stat fest like the US enjoy for NASCAR and Indy.
We don't need to be bombarded with every detail to sieve through, but we do need good commentators like Martin Brundle to present the important data .... not just fill in the time between adverts like "the cock" does.
With regards to commentators, I think the pair that do Moto GP (Parish and Wazizface) do a great job, however they do have far more action to get exited about than an F1 commentator ever will.
We don't need to be bombarded with every detail to sieve through, but we do need good commentators like Martin Brundle to present the important data .... not just fill in the time between adverts like "the cock" does.
With regards to commentators, I think the pair that do Moto GP (Parish and Wazizface) do a great job, however they do have far more action to get exited about than an F1 commentator ever will.
mat205125 said:
With regards to commentators, I think the pair that do Moto GP (Parish and Wazizface) do a great job, however they do have far more action to get exited about than an F1 commentator ever will.
Sir, can I suggest you depart to Eurosport coverage of MotoGP (if available to your good self) to take in the meanderings of messrs Moody and Ryder. Much much more entertaining than Parrish and Charlie Wazizface Cox.
Plus they broadcast all the races so it's a full on Sunday in front of the TV fest.
There's little more entertaining than watching 7 125cc nutters going abreast into a corner.
mat205125 said:
No objection to something that could rid my set of "the cock", but I would not like to see F1 turned into a stat fest like the US enjoy for NASCAR and Indy.
We don't need to be bombarded with every detail to sieve through, but we do need good commentators like Martin Brundle to present the important data .... not just fill in the time between adverts like "the cock" does.
With regards to commentators, I think the pair that do Moto GP (Parish and Wazizface) do a great job, however they do have far more action to get exited about than an F1 commentator ever will.
We don't need to be bombarded with every detail to sieve through, but we do need good commentators like Martin Brundle to present the important data .... not just fill in the time between adverts like "the cock" does.
With regards to commentators, I think the pair that do Moto GP (Parish and Wazizface) do a great job, however they do have far more action to get exited about than an F1 commentator ever will.
you must have been watching a different bike race to me, the last few races have been duller than a dull thing.
2priestsferrari said:
Surely James Allen must go now Ross Brawn has added his two-penneth...
Brawn, currently on a sabbatical from Formula One, has not returned to the paddock since last year, and has instead watched the first three races of the season on television.
The Briton says he has been left frustrated by the experience, and admits he misses the amount of information he used to have available to him.
"It's definitely a new experience for me to watch it with a different perspective and also the quality of commentators on English TV," Brawn told Autosport magazine.
"I sympathise with you - it's a very frustrating business to watch F1 on British TV.
"We're used to having all the data and all the split times and we can see the race developing. What's clear when you watch it on the TV is that you don't get that information.
"Our commentators don't seem very good at conveying what is going on. It's very frustrating to watch a race and not have that information which is available to everyone at the track. So condolences for that."
Brawn, currently on a sabbatical from Formula One, has not returned to the paddock since last year, and has instead watched the first three races of the season on television.
The Briton says he has been left frustrated by the experience, and admits he misses the amount of information he used to have available to him.
"It's definitely a new experience for me to watch it with a different perspective and also the quality of commentators on English TV," Brawn told Autosport magazine.
"I sympathise with you - it's a very frustrating business to watch F1 on British TV.
"We're used to having all the data and all the split times and we can see the race developing. What's clear when you watch it on the TV is that you don't get that information.
"Our commentators don't seem very good at conveying what is going on. It's very frustrating to watch a race and not have that information which is available to everyone at the track. So condolences for that."
Hmm, he's not referring to Allen is he, he's clearly reffering to both of them.
Just read a typically forthright interview with Niki Lauda in Motorsport, and I see that he commentates for Austrian telly. Ooh, I thought, I'd love to hear his takes on what's happening out there.
JonRB said:
Locoblade said:
Having live timing up on the computer screen from the F1 website whilst watching the race on TV does add a new dimension to the races
Certainly does. I've been banging on about it since near enough the beginning but am still amazed by how few people seem to use it.
Maybe that's because it requires you to have a computer next to your TV.
heebeegeetee said:
2priestsferrari said:
Surely James Allen must go now Ross Brawn has added his two-penneth...
Brawn, currently on a sabbatical from Formula One, has not returned to the paddock since last year, and has instead watched the first three races of the season on television.
The Briton says he has been left frustrated by the experience, and admits he misses the amount of information he used to have available to him.
"It's definitely a new experience for me to watch it with a different perspective and also the quality of commentators on English TV," Brawn told Autosport magazine.
"I sympathise with you - it's a very frustrating business to watch F1 on British TV.
"We're used to having all the data and all the split times and we can see the race developing. What's clear when you watch it on the TV is that you don't get that information.
"Our commentators don't seem very good at conveying what is going on. It's very frustrating to watch a race and not have that information which is available to everyone at the track. So condolences for that."
Brawn, currently on a sabbatical from Formula One, has not returned to the paddock since last year, and has instead watched the first three races of the season on television.
The Briton says he has been left frustrated by the experience, and admits he misses the amount of information he used to have available to him.
"It's definitely a new experience for me to watch it with a different perspective and also the quality of commentators on English TV," Brawn told Autosport magazine.
"I sympathise with you - it's a very frustrating business to watch F1 on British TV.
"We're used to having all the data and all the split times and we can see the race developing. What's clear when you watch it on the TV is that you don't get that information.
"Our commentators don't seem very good at conveying what is going on. It's very frustrating to watch a race and not have that information which is available to everyone at the track. So condolences for that."
Hmm, he's not referring to Allen is he, he's clearly reffering to both of them.
Just read a typically forthright interview with Niki Lauda in Motorsport, and I see that he commentates for Austrian telly. Ooh, I thought, I'd love to hear his takes on what's happening out there.
Yeah that was a great interview - in fact Motorsport magazine is a refreshing read...maybe people can let loose more years later?
2priestsferrari said:
Yeah that was a great interview - in fact Motorsport magazine is a refreshing read...maybe people can let loose more years later?
Personally I think its just the best, far and away the best motoring mag out there
. Love those Simon Taylor lunch interviews too... SamHH said:
JonRB said:
Locoblade said:
Having live timing up on the computer screen from the F1 website whilst watching the race on TV does add a new dimension to the races
Certainly does. I've been banging on about it since near enough the beginning but am still amazed by how few people seem to use it.
Maybe that's because it requires you to have a computer next to your TV.
I love the idea, but living in a 3rd world country means I would be watching the race several hours after watching the live timing
mat205125 said:
No objection to something that could rid my set of "the cock", but I would not like to see F1 turned into a stat fest like the US enjoy for NASCAR and Indy.
We don't need to be bombarded with every detail to sieve through, but we do need good commentators like Martin Brundle to present the important data .... not just fill in the time between adverts like "the cock" does.
We don't need to be bombarded with every detail to sieve through, but we do need good commentators like Martin Brundle to present the important data .... not just fill in the time between adverts like "the cock" does.
Perhaps but at least they are in HDTV.
Best thing now is using real time info on the web as some one earlier mentioned and watch tv.
10 years ago I thought we were going to have the ability to select which cameras to watch from while sitting on our couches.
JonRB said:
SamHH said:
Maybe that's because it requires you to have a computer next to your TV.
Yes, there is that.
However, basic spec laptops are so cheap these days that I just kind of assumed that most people had one.
Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 2nd May 22:41
I tried it for the first race of the year, couldn't work it out (I was trying to watch the racing as well) so gave up and have never gone back.
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