F1's grid walk
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skinny

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5,269 posts

264 months

Sunday 17th June 2007
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i like brundle generally but anyone else get annoyed when he spends more time talking to celebs who know and care little about F1 on the grid instead of drivers and team personnel?

i think the worst was that random policitian at monaco. totally pointless. he also needs to practise talking to girls a bit more...

Fidgits

17,202 posts

258 months

Sunday 17th June 2007
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I think less and less drivers want to talk to him before the race, and as he said, they are spending very little time hanging around on the grids now... so he cant talk to any drivers, so who else?

Mattt

16,664 posts

247 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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At least it's not James Allen talking for a few moments........

skinny

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5,269 posts

264 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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he spends so long talking to celebs that by the time he's looking for drivers, they're all ready to get into their car!! biggrin

D-Angle

4,468 posts

271 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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skinny said:
i think the worst was that random policitian at monaco. totally pointless.
He was foisted on Brundle by Bernie, something he does to MB a lot if you watch for it. I think Bernie's 'running interference' so he doesn't bother as many drivers! biggrin

I'm not surprised drivers don't want to speak to him, he's the last thing you need when you are trying to prepare mentally for the race. Especially since his questions have all followed the same line recently - "So Jenson, 13th on the grid, a few problems in qualifying, your team-mate didn't do you any favours, and there is a lot of concern about Honda's performance this year, so I have to ask - what do you think of Lewis Hamiton? rolleyes

flemke

23,481 posts

266 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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skinny said:
i think the worst was that random policitian at monaco. totally pointless.
Perhaps, but it was also a perfect epitome of how vacuous, superficial and unreal F1 has become.

You want pointless? Modern F1 gives you that in spades.

motco

17,597 posts

275 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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Who was the individual on the grid and later in Hamilton's pit with Lewis' father, he said he owns a Maclaren - music promoter, I think he said? Gave MB a moment of awkwardness with his one word replies to questions.

Fidgits

17,202 posts

258 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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motco said:
Who was the individual on the grid and later in Hamilton's pit with Lewis' father, he said he owns a Maclaren - music promoter, I think he said? Gave MB a moment of awkwardness with his one word replies to questions.
Farrell - He's a Hip Hop star, nephew of Snoop Dogg, and seemed to be working with Lewis on his 'brand', which knowing that industry, can only be a bad thing.

So expect 'Lewis' clothes, trainers, rap records....

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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motco said:
Who was the individual on the grid and later in Hamilton's pit with Lewis' father, he said he owns a Maclaren - music promoter, I think he said? Gave MB a moment of awkwardness with his one word replies to questions.
Farrell or something like that.

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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His pitwalks have progressively become less interesting his season, regardless of random celebs, but they are still the closest thing to being on the grid oneself and they are generally the only chance you get all weekend to check out what loud shirt Bish is wearing laugh

Mikeyboy

5,018 posts

264 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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motco said:
Who was the individual on the grid and later in Hamilton's pit with Lewis' father, he said he owns a Maclaren - music promoter, I think he said? Gave MB a moment of awkwardness with his one word replies to questions.
as people have said, Farell williams. I was stunned when he called Lewis a BRAND. well yes he is but its not exactly how you would talk about a friend which he claims to be. Probably hadn't even heard of him 6 weeks ago.

Also I thought his business speak was a gangsta tryign to sound legit and smarter than he really is so I really don't know why Brundle felt he needed to speak to him.

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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Mikeyboy said:
motco said:
Who was the individual on the grid and later in Hamilton's pit with Lewis' father, he said he owns a Maclaren - music promoter, I think he said? Gave MB a moment of awkwardness with his one word replies to questions.
as people have said, Farell williams. I was stunned when he called Lewis a BRAND. well yes he is but its not exactly how you would talk about a friend which he claims to be. Probably hadn't even heard of him 6 weeks ago.

Also I thought his business speak was a gangsta tryign to sound legit and smarter than he really is so I really don't know why Brundle felt he needed to speak to him.
Er they were in America - a lareg Gangsta market (they like there Mclarens!!)wink


Mikeyboy

5,018 posts

264 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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jellison said:
Mikeyboy said:
motco said:
Who was the individual on the grid and later in Hamilton's pit with Lewis' father, he said he owns a Maclaren - music promoter, I think he said? Gave MB a moment of awkwardness with his one word replies to questions.
as people have said, Farell williams. I was stunned when he called Lewis a BRAND. well yes he is but its not exactly how you would talk about a friend which he claims to be. Probably hadn't even heard of him 6 weeks ago.

Also I thought his business speak was a gangsta tryign to sound legit and smarter than he really is so I really don't know why Brundle felt he needed to speak to him.
Er they were in America - a lareg Gangsta market (they like there Mclarens!!)wink
er but he was on British TV.

dino ferrana

791 posts

281 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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I think before trying to paint Pharrell Williams as some kind of retarded "Gangster", you should perhaps be aware of how influential and successful he is! I am possibly not the most PC of chaps, but some of this is getting into racism territory. The below is from USAtoday.com:

Pharrell Williams the producer is used to making big hits with big stars. Pharrell Williams the artist has more modest aspirations for his solo album, In My Mind, which arrives Tuesday after several delays.
Williams splits the album between hip-hop and R&B tracks, which he says are for "the small society of people who think for themselves. It's all about individuality."

The more visible half of the hitmaking Neptunes (producer Chad Hugo is his partner) describes the songs as "those explorative kind of conversations with yourself. I consider this album as just a paragraph in the book of my career."

That's a pretty thick book, filled with nearly a decade of propelling platinum hits by such diverse acts as No Doubt, Jay-Z, Busta Rhymes, Justin Timberlake, Usher and Britney Spears. He also has taken more artistic turns with 2003's The Neptunes Presents ... Clones and two albums with their alternative rock band, N.E.R.D.

The perpetually busy Williams says another N.E.R.D. album is in the works, as are new projects on their Star Trak Records label from Robin Thicke, Slim Thug, The Clipse and Snoop Dogg.

In My Mind was supposed to come out late last year to take advantage of the single Can I Have It Like That, with Gwen Stefani. But Williams was so busy producing the likes of Jay-Z, Omarion, Snoop Dogg, Stefani and others that he never got to his own record.

"I threw back the curtains too fast, being anxious and being artistic, and I didn't pay attention to the practical part of things," he says. "I didn't even have my album mixed."

Williams, whose raspy tenor is often heard on his productions, shows a sensitive side on his R&B tracks, while his raps are more introspective.

He also plays off his youthful alter ego, Skateboard P. "That's me looking back and realizing what I was into when I was a teenager," says Williams, who sponsors the nationally touring Ice Cream Skate Team.

His new single, Number One, grew out of a chance meeting in the studio with Kanye West. The video shoot turned into a fly fashion summit (Williams topped Esquire's 2005 best-dressed men in the world list; West was No. 3) between the self-proclaimed Louis Vuitton Don (West) and the man Louis Vuitton tapped to design a jewelry line and appear in their fall/winter ads.

Williams' Billionaire Boys Club clothing line and Ice Cream brand sneakers are sold in exclusive shops worldwide. He opened a Billionaire Boys Club boutique in Tokyo last November and plans to open another in New York in 2007.

"I love what I do," he says. "I aspire to be like a Spielberg to people's careers. To provide incredible backdrops and direct artists to be the best they could ever be musically. It's the same thing for fashion. I like being Oz. I don't think it was meant for me to be Dorothy."


rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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Jay Zee, Slim Thug and Snoop Dogg - just the sort of chaps I'd want to have a beer with...

Actually, he did come across as articulate in his interview - I didn't like all that "Brand" talk - have enough of one pseudo-rapper on the grid in the shape of Liuzzi for anymore. Mind you, Hamilton listed his music "likes" in F1Racing recently and I can assure you that the Tweenies and McFly were not mentioned....

dino ferrana

791 posts

281 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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Lewis is currently being paid a fraction of what Alonso is, obviously it won't stay that way for long! McLaren know that he has enormous earnings potential, especially in the US where they can get exposure for their sponsors to a whole new market. Putting Williams on the pitwall gives Lewis some credibility with a demographic who have possibly never even heard of F1. Modern sports stars and teams are brands and there isn't much that is going to change that, as long as it doesn't turn him into an android or affect his racing, then who cares. Photos of Pharrell with Lewis will appear in the US and get him and the sport a lot of exposure, that could be a good thing, time will tell.

No idea who Slim Thug is and Snoop Dogg is certainly not a particularly savoury character, but Jay-Z is a highly intelligent person and astute businessman too. Jay-Z has built and enormous fortune and business empire that goes outside of his music career.

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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dino ferrana said:
Jay-Z has built and enormous fortune and business empire that goes outside of his music career.
oh so tempting...but I won't...

Mikeyboy

5,018 posts

264 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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dino ferrana said:
I think before trying to paint Pharrell Williams as some kind of retarded "Gangster", you should perhaps be aware of how influential and successful he is! I am possibly not the most PC of chaps, but some of this is getting into racism territory. The below is from USAtoday.com:

Pharrell Williams the producer is used to making big hits with big stars. Pharrell Williams the artist has more modest aspirations for his solo album, In My Mind, which arrives Tuesday after several delays.
Williams splits the album between hip-hop and R&B tracks, which he says are for "the small society of people who think for themselves. It's all about individuality."

The more visible half of the hitmaking Neptunes (producer Chad Hugo is his partner) describes the songs as "those explorative kind of conversations with yourself. I consider this album as just a paragraph in the book of my career."

That's a pretty thick book, filled with nearly a decade of propelling platinum hits by such diverse acts as No Doubt, Jay-Z, Busta Rhymes, Justin Timberlake, Usher and Britney Spears. He also has taken more artistic turns with 2003's The Neptunes Presents ... Clones and two albums with their alternative rock band, N.E.R.D.

The perpetually busy Williams says another N.E.R.D. album is in the works, as are new projects on their Star Trak Records label from Robin Thicke, Slim Thug, The Clipse and Snoop Dogg.

In My Mind was supposed to come out late last year to take advantage of the single Can I Have It Like That, with Gwen Stefani. But Williams was so busy producing the likes of Jay-Z, Omarion, Snoop Dogg, Stefani and others that he never got to his own record.

"I threw back the curtains too fast, being anxious and being artistic, and I didn't pay attention to the practical part of things," he says. "I didn't even have my album mixed."

Williams, whose raspy tenor is often heard on his productions, shows a sensitive side on his R&B tracks, while his raps are more introspective.

He also plays off his youthful alter ego, Skateboard P. "That's me looking back and realizing what I was into when I was a teenager," says Williams, who sponsors the nationally touring Ice Cream Skate Team.

His new single, Number One, grew out of a chance meeting in the studio with Kanye West. The video shoot turned into a fly fashion summit (Williams topped Esquire's 2005 best-dressed men in the world list; West was No. 3) between the self-proclaimed Louis Vuitton Don (West) and the man Louis Vuitton tapped to design a jewelry line and appear in their fall/winter ads.

Williams' Billionaire Boys Club clothing line and Ice Cream brand sneakers are sold in exclusive shops worldwide. He opened a Billionaire Boys Club boutique in Tokyo last November and plans to open another in New York in 2007.

"I love what I do," he says. "I aspire to be like a Spielberg to people's careers. To provide incredible backdrops and direct artists to be the best they could ever be musically. It's the same thing for fashion. I like being Oz. I don't think it was meant for me to be Dorothy."
I wasn't being racist for one thing. i do find low aspiration culture (where education and non media related skills are frowned on)something to be avoided and something that Lewis Hamilton would be best to avoid attaching his name to for the sake of a quick buck.

And my opinion of Williams stands. The record sales of a Rapper/R&B artist in the states will gaurantee you Millions and to quote the old phrase "Money makes money". Your "people" then tell you to release a clothes line and perfume brand. Where's the skill? And where does his involvement in establishing the businesses actually come in? Just repaeting management speak does not make you a business man, often the opposite in fact.

PhillT

2,489 posts

254 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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rubystone said:
Jay Zee, Slim Thug and Snoop Dogg - just the sort of chaps I'd want to have a beer with...

Actually, he did come across as articulate in his interview - I didn't like all that "Brand" talk - have enough of one pseudo-rapper on the grid in the shape of Liuzzi for anymore. Mind you, Hamilton listed his music "likes" in F1Racing recently and I can assure you that the Tweenies and McFly were not mentioned....
But as I recall, he did express a liking for Chaka Demus and Pliers...
Stick to driving, I think.

emicen

9,231 posts

247 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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Mikeyboy said:
And my opinion of Williams stands. The record sales of a Rapper/R&B artist in the states will gaurantee you Millions and to quote the old phrase "Money makes money". Your "people" then tell you to release a clothes line and perfume brand. Where's the skill? And where does his involvement in establishing the businesses actually come in? Just repaeting management speak does not make you a business man, often the opposite in fact.
So, being an extremely talented producer, not just musician would not qualify him as having skill.

The self promotion all R+B stars in the USA have come through also means they clearly have no business accumen.

Williams, Jay-Z, Dr Dre, Puff Daddy etc are a shining example of people who have built up million dollar enterprises from pressing their own records and selling them on street corners.

Frankly, they are far more aspirational characters than business men like Alan Sugar.