Carlos Garcia what a hysterical racist ****
Carlos Garcia what a hysterical racist ****
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mark69sheer

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3,906 posts

231 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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You will have read now how Carlos Garcia the motorsport world federation representative for Spain has made some highly contenscious remarks.

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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/22283/British-...
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of being "Racists who have found themselves having to support a black driver"

What a pratt.
Remember this is the same guy who insisted that the FIA have a spy in the Garage for Alonso during the Brazilian GP.

Now I wonder who the rascist really is,

and to think our government are sold on the EU ideal.

vomit vomit vomit .

Edited by mark69sheer on Wednesday 17th October 09:36

mark69sheer

Original Poster:

3,906 posts

231 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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In fact.

The FIA website doesn't have an email link and not speaking fluent french I wish to make a representation to the FIA officially vai this website.


'I Mark Sheerin hereby accuse Carlos Garcia of actions liable to bring the FIA and the sport into disrepute.'

This is an official complaint any representatives of the FIA can contact me to get my full details through the email address on this site where I will be happy to provide my full details to the FIA representative concerned.

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

5.0%

166 posts

227 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Another example of the xenophobic British press leading gullible lemmings by the nose.
You have to be pretty stupid to believe what they say.

Nice Spanish gentleman: "I want to make it clear that I do not believe in stereotyping any nationality. There was no racist element to what I said and I am a great admirer of England. I did not say that. The accusations that have emerged go against the very principles I've defended in 23 years at the head of the Spanish Federation. What I meant was that England have been looking for a Formula One idol for many years and no matter who he was, they were going to give him all their support. I have always had great respect for Hamilton as a driver and that respect remains even though he can take the title away from [Fernando] Alonso."

mark69sheer

Original Poster:

3,906 posts

231 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Thats back pedalling at its finest. How can using the word black have been missinterpreted or the use of the word racist in the original Spanish press?

and who is stupid?

I will wait to see if Garcia sues the paper for libel before I make any judgement on wether his denial carries any weight.

I suspect I will not be the one with egg on my face at the end of this.

He also says that the British pinned their hopes on Button but that it came up a blank . .
really . .
So have we seen Button in a Ferrari or McLaren yet?
Lets not forget Button took a backwards step to move to Honda in the hope it would pay off.
He also made Villienueve look slow at Williams just like Hamilton with Alonso.

Edited by mark69sheer on Wednesday 17th October 10:11

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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5.0per cent said:
Another example of the xenophobic British press leading gullible lemmings by the nose.
You have to be pretty stupid to believe what they say.
Hang on a second. Yet again you seem to be getting your panties in a twist before you've bothered to find out the whole story.

If you'd actually read the article on Crash, you would have noticed that the quotes that gave the impression he was making racist remarks were published in a SPANISH NEWSPAPER - it is in fact Reuters (French/International) and Crash.net (British) who are reporting that he has said the remarks were published in such a way that he appeared racist.

Put brain in gear, 5.0%.

It's the British who are giving him right of reply without even publishing the original story!

Edited by MrKipling43 on Wednesday 17th October 10:29

5.0%

166 posts

227 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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MrKipling43 said:
It's the British who are giving him right of reply without even publishing the original story!
Silly me. For all these years I have been thinking that the Daily Express is British: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/22283/British-...

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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5.0percent said:
MrKipling43 said:
It's the British who are giving him right of reply without even publishing the original story!
Silly me. For all these years I have been thinking that the Daily Express is British: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/22283/British-...
Yeah, using quotes from a Spanish Newspaper!

Edited by MrKipling43 on Wednesday 17th October 13:30

toomuchbeer

877 posts

237 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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It appears to me that Carlos had a chat with a Spanish newspaper, and they printed the chat in a way to create a sensational headline, and batter the British.

The Express (british Newpaper) reported that the spanish newspaper had run the article. They didn't run the article themselves. They are reporting FACT. The article content may not be FACT, but is not there duty to find out if it's the truth, they are reporting on the article published in Spain.

He has since issued a statement saying ' that quotes attributed to him in Spain's El Publico newspaper had been twisted, making him appear critical of the British'.

5.0%, I think you just jumped onto the Daily Express before reading the contents.

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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[quote=5.0%]Another example of the xenophobic British press leading gullible lemmings by the nose.
You have to be pretty stupid to believe what they say.

Nice Spanish gentleman: "I want to make it clear that I do not believe in stereotyping any nationality. There was no racist element to what I said and I am a great admirer of England. I did not say that. The accusations that have emerged go against the very principles I've defended in 23 years at the head of the Spanish Federation. What I meant was that England have been looking for a Formula One idol for many years and no matter who he was, they were going to give him all their support. I have always had great respect for Hamilton as a driver and that respect remains even though he can take the title away from [Fernando] Alonso."

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eh? Wasn't it the Spanish paper that quoted him? The British paper simply printed what the Spanish paper had already printed....or perhaps they simply mis-translated the word "black"?

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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[quote=5.0%]
MrKipling43 said:
It's the British who are giving him right of reply without even publishing the original story!
Silly me. For all these years I have been thinking that the Daily Express is British: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/22283/British-...
You dork! Read it properly before posting - are you by any chance LoneRanger under a new identity? MODS - check this guy out"!

Heebeegeetee

30,128 posts

277 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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[quote=5.0%]Another example of the xenophobic British press leading gullible lemmings by the nose.
You have to be pretty stupid to believe what they say.

Nice Spanish gentleman: "I want to make it clear that I do not believe in stereotyping any nationality. There was no racist element to what I said and I am a great admirer of England. I did not say that. The accusations that have emerged go against the very principles I've defended in 23 years at the head of the Spanish Federation. What I meant was that England have been looking for a Formula One idol for many years and no matter who he was, they were going to give him all their support. I have always had great respect for Hamilton as a driver and that respect remains even though he can take the title away from [Fernando] Alonso."

[/quote]

Well it will be no problem for Gracia. The Express have published comments and attributed them to Gracia. Gracia will be a wealthy man, who probably already has a full-time legal team working for him anyway as part of his everyday business life. So it'll be no sweat for Gracia to reel in some easy money. Provided he's not lying about his retraction, of course.

5%, you don't surely believe every politician who makes a retraction when the shit hits the fan do you?

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Who careswink

Heebeegeetee

30,128 posts

277 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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jellison said:
Who careswink
Well i do, 'cos if there's even a hint of truth in the story it shows yet again how out of touch the FIA are. The FIA have ruined a great season, and have brought the sport into more disrepute than anyone or anything else i can ever think of.

The sport needs a major check up from the neck up, 'cos the body is doing just fine.

LDNrevs

9,310 posts

232 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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mark69sheer said:
You will have read now how Carlos Garcia the motorsport world federation representative for Spain has made some highly contenscious remarks.

[url]
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/22283/British-...
[/url]

of being "Racists who have found themselves having to support a black driver"

What a pratt.
Remember this is the same guy who insisted that the FIA have a spy in the Garage for Alonso during the Brazilian GP.

Now I wonder who the rascist really is,

and to think our government are sold on the EU ideal.

vomit vomit vomit .

Edited by mark69sheer on Wednesday 17th October 09:36
This doesn't suprise me at all .. as I've seen the spanish set being racist at football matches and in general also. There's something in their culture that deems it ok. As for Garcia, he is now obviously making a poor attempt at back pedalling and covering his own hide now that he's realised what a big deal his comments are. He may have been out of context - quotes in print often portray a warped sense of someone's intention but never-the-less, he's an idiot for even treading that line.

It was always going to happen; Lewis is good and that is enough to bring out the worst in some people - this being a prime example. Same goes for Max and probably many others who are forcing themselves to keep their lips buttoned...

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Heebeegeetee said:
jellison said:
Who careswink
Well i do, 'cos if there's even a hint of truth in the story it shows yet again how out of touch the FIA are. The FIA have ruined a great season, and have brought the sport into more disrepute than anyone or anything else i can ever think of.

The sport needs a major check up from the neck up, 'cos the body is doing just fine.
the FIA have f**ked up before, they are f**king up now, they will f**k up in the future. as i said the other week, if these goons were CEOs of an organisation the size and scale of F1, they would be out on their arses quicker than you could say P45. the problem is, they really are a law unto themselves, the teams need the sport, the sport seemingly does not care about the spectators, certainly not the ones at the circuits, and the media/merchandise people have wet dreams each night at the thought of more chumps paying thirty quid for a t-shirt....

Laird

39,731 posts

313 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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5% shoots and scores again rolleyes

Ahonen

5,032 posts

308 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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rubystone said:
5pc said:
MrKipling43 said:
It's the British who are giving him right of reply without even publishing the original story!
Silly me. For all these years I have been thinking that the Daily Express is British: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/22283/British-...
You dork! Read it properly before posting - are you by any chance LoneRanger under a new identity? MODS - check this guy out"!
It's the guy once known as Bruciebabe, who used to argue with people about all sorts of things. He was notable for the following:

- Scuba diving.
- Having a mail order Russian bride.
- Stating that the Peugeot 405 handled better than any 3-series BMW.
- Hating BMWs generally.
- Stating that MacPherson strut suspension simply doesn't work. No ifs, no buts, it just didn't work, at all, ever, under any circumstances. No sireee bob.

I believe he's returned (again, as he does periodically) just to wind people up. The problem is that everyone bites, which is exactly what he wants. It's the Oscar Wilde thing about being talked about...

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Heebeegeetee said:
jellison said:
Who careswink
Well i do, 'cos if there's even a hint of truth in the story it shows yet again how out of touch the FIA are. The FIA have ruined a great season, and have brought the sport into more disrepute than anyone or anything else i can ever think of.

The sport needs a major check up from the neck up, 'cos the body is doing just fine.
Of course the FIA are out of touch! Have you seen their website or look into getting Fia papers on a race car or Heritage stuff. Just a massive money making machine.

F1 / FIA is just so much hot air that has SOD ALL to do with Balls to the wall racing.

tank slapper

7,949 posts

312 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Ahonen said:
It's the guy once known as Bruciebabe, who used to argue with people about all sorts of things. He was notable for the following:

- Scuba diving.
- Having a mail order Russian bride.
- Stating that the Peugeot 405 handled better than any 3-series BMW.
- Hating BMWs generally.
- Stating that MacPherson strut suspension simply doesn't work. No ifs, no buts, it just didn't work, at all, ever, under any circumstances. No sireee bob.

I believe he's returned (again, as he does periodically) just to wind people up. The problem is that everyone bites, which is exactly what he wants. It's the Oscar Wilde thing about being talked about...
He also appears to be fairly unimaginative, as most of the crap on the website in his profile is posted by "SexyTed", and I seem to recall the various other forums he set up are run by someone with a name ending in Ted.