Hamilton Under Investigation
Hamilton Under Investigation
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sa_20v

Original Poster:

4,112 posts

260 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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http://www.forumula1.net/2007/f1/f1-news/hamilton-...

Not the greatest start to the weekend, is it?

oggs

8,817 posts

283 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Also ready been said on this thread smilehttp://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

5.0%

166 posts

227 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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sa_20v said:
http://www.forumula1.net/2007/f1/f1-news/hamilton-...

Not the greatest start to the weekend, is it?
If it had been Alonso who used 2 sets of wets all the lemmings would be shouting "cheat" by now.

jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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rolleyes

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth, live timing is on for Practice 2.

GarrettMacD

831 posts

261 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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If it had been Alonso who used 2 sets of wets all the lemmings would be shouting "cheat" by now.
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Not Quite. It would be "Cheating Spantard".

nre

560 posts

299 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Ron Dennis said:
"I just hope the stewards don't take the constructors' championship points away - oh, wait, they've already done that!"
laugh

LaSarthe+Back

2,084 posts

242 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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McLaren fined 15,000 e's

Phew...

npope

564 posts

231 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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people still dont see that McLaren will cheat there way to the win, as posted before if it was Ferrari or FA you all would be asking for heads to roll. Still if LH wants to go down in history as winning via cheating then thats cool.

flemke

23,481 posts

266 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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npope said:
people still dont see that McLaren will cheat there way to the win, as posted before if it was Ferrari or FA you all would be asking for heads to roll. Still if LH wants to go down in history as winning via cheating then thats cool.
Does not the fact that three separate teams did this suggest to you that there may be something more to it than you suggest?

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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npope said:
people still dont see that McLaren will cheat there way to the win, as posted before if it was Ferrari or FA you all would be asking for heads to roll. Still if LH wants to go down in history as winning via cheating then thats cool.
it wasn't cheating - there was no possible advantage to be gained by changing to a second set of the same tyre after the install lap. they just fell foul of the FIA random rule book, as Honda and SA did too...

as for ferrari and tyres, are you forgetting fuji?

rolleyes

npope

564 posts

231 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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skinny said:
npope said:
people still dont see that McLaren will cheat there way to the win, as posted before if it was Ferrari or FA you all would be asking for heads to roll. Still if LH wants to go down in history as winning via cheating then thats cool.
it wasn't cheating - there was no possible advantage to be gained by changing to a second set of the same tyre after the install lap. they just fell foul of the FIA random rule book, as Honda and SA did too...

as for ferrari and tyres, are you forgetting fuji?

rolleyes
Not forgetting maybe you forgot the race stewards agreed the email did not reach Ferrari in time.

Nick Cooper

139 posts

248 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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Not forgetting maybe you forgot the race stewards agreed the email did not reach Ferrari in time.
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And you belive that!!

minimatt1967

17,381 posts

235 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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npope said:
Not forgetting maybe you forgot the race stewards agreed the email did not reach Ferrari in time.
Why was thier an e-mail strike aswell? hehe

5.0%

166 posts

227 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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Nick Cooper said:
Not forgetting maybe you forgot the race stewards agreed the email did not reach Ferrari in time.
And you belive that!!
They were able to prove it with the email time stamping.
And the FIA realised that the existing system was inadequate and changed it after this incident.

The problem with the FIA is that they seem to be in Bernies pocket re LH.
At least five times he has escaped from punishment.
1) Brake testing the pack repeatedly under the safety car in Japan.
2) Illegally scrubbing in an extra set of wets for this race weekend.
3) No driver's penalty for Stepneygate.
4) Creating the Q3 incident in Hungary.
5) Assistance to re enter the race in Germany.

Strangely Brown

15,622 posts

260 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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5.0percent said:
Nick Cooper said:
npope said:
Not forgetting maybe you forgot the race stewards agreed the email did not reach Ferrari in time.
And you belive that!!
They were able to prove it with the email time stamping.
And the FIA realised that the existing system was inadequate and changed it after this incident.

The problem with the FIA is that they seem to be in Bernies pocket re LH.
At least five times he has escaped from punishment.
1) Brake testing the pack repeatedly under the safety car in Japan.
2) Illegally scrubbing in an extra set of wets for this race weekend.
3) No driver's penalty for Stepneygate.
4) Creating the Q3 incident in Hungary.
5) Assistance to re enter the race in Germany.
You're on a hiding to nothing mate... you'll be ripped apart and pilloried for that kind of talk. Don't you know that LBH is the messiah round here?

Edit to correct attribution.

Edited by Strangely Brown on Saturday 20th October 08:53

Road Hog

2,658 posts

242 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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FIA = FERRARI INTERNATIONAL ASSISTANCE...........

gtr-gaz

5,281 posts

275 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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Looks like the FIA have appointed a special scrutineer to make sure LH and FA both get the same treatment during the race hehe

I think Ron will have to be very subtle wink

Derek Smith

49,689 posts

277 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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npope said:
the race stewards agreed the email did not reach Ferrari in time.
I think it was more a case of there being no way they could ascertain when Ferrari got the email: i.e. no evidence, in exactly the same way as there was no evidence to show that McLI knew of, or took advantage of, the info that Stepney provided to Coughlan, PDLR and FA. Or rather, of course, almost the same as the FIA chose not to believe one group and to believe the other.

I would point out that my Aunty knew what tyres Ferrari should have had on their car some time before the race started but had no idea what was in the Stepneygate dossier up until the FIA published its full report. And she's in a home for the terminally wierd.

npope

564 posts

231 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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See as stated in my first post if it was Ferrari you would all be asking for heads to roll, it is very easy to prove if an email has left and at what time. Each email gets a time stamp from the server from which it was sent and recived so if there was any chance Ferrari got it it could have been proved and then they could have been proved cheating.




npope

564 posts

231 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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Strangely Brown said:
5.0percent said:
Nick Cooper said:
npope said:
Not forgetting maybe you forgot the race stewards agreed the email did not reach Ferrari in time.
And you belive that!!
They were able to prove it with the email time stamping.
And the FIA realised that the existing system was inadequate and changed it after this incident.

The problem with the FIA is that they seem to be in Bernies pocket re LH.
At least five times he has escaped from punishment.
1) Brake testing the pack repeatedly under the safety car in Japan.
2) Illegally scrubbing in an extra set of wets for this race weekend.
3) No driver's penalty for Stepneygate.
4) Creating the Q3 incident in Hungary.
5) Assistance to re enter the race in Germany.
You're on a hiding to nothing mate... you'll be ripped apart and pilloried for that kind of talk. Don't you know that LBH is the messiah round here?

Edit to correct attribution.

Edited by Strangely Brown on Saturday 20th October 08:53
Thanks but its all good fun, I wish nothing more than a English champ but one that does it on merit.