Shame it'll still be a boring place to visit and drive
Shame it'll still be a boring place to visit and drive
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mat205125

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17,790 posts

242 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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So what are they saying? The future for British international motorsport is a wobbly roof for the rich and pointless to enjoy?

Guess joe public will stick to sitting in 2nd rate grandstand, standing on overcrowded banks, not being able to see tha action, and going home stinking of overpriced poor quality fast food.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/7277053...

Bring back Brands! Kick out Moseley and the poison dwarf, and get real about what makes good race tracks. If they can run races at Monaco, then why ignore Brands. Ideal Specky arena for the event!

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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Looks very impressive...but something is needed the other side of the track. Whilst I'm a big fan of Brands, I don't want to see it dug up - at least Silverstone has the space and now the infrastructure

SamHH

5,078 posts

245 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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I'm not sure it's fair to criticise this plan without knowing more about it (I assume you know nothing more than is written in the BBC article).

Racefan_uk

2,935 posts

285 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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What the BBC article doesn't tell you is, that new building and pit and paddock complex is going to be put between Club and Abbey. So the current pits and pit-lane... will that be for the other series to use? Or will they demolish it?

waynepixel

3,978 posts

253 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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Could someone point out where are the new spectator stands in this illustration?


Marki

15,763 posts

299 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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BBC article said:
The new facilities include garages, a media centre and a VIP area.
And that is all they care about, Joe Public can sit in the mud as long as he pays for the privilage

SamHH

5,078 posts

245 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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Marki said:
BBC article said:
The new facilities include garages, a media centre and a VIP area.
And that is all they care about, Joe Public can sit in the mud as long as he pays for the privilage
Do you think the circuit owners have come up with this scheme because they care about racing teams, sponsors and the media?

Edited by SamHH on Tuesday 4th March 14:49

rustybin

1,769 posts

267 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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http://www.brdc.co.uk/news.cfm/title/SILVERSTONE.....

Bit more info here. Some realism is required. If one wants to enjoy a British GP, first you have to ensure you retain one. If this is what the BRDC needs to do to achieve that then so be it. Personaly I think this is a good way forward.

ETA If you think it's boring to drive you aren't going quick enough.

Edited by rustybin on Tuesday 4th March 15:06

SimonY

348 posts

237 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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rustybin said:
http://www.brdc.co.uk/news.cfm/title/SILVERSTONE.....

Bit more info here. Some realism is required. If one wants to enjoy a British GP, first you have to ensure you retain one. If this is what the BRDC needs to do to achieve that then so be it. Personaly I think this is a good way forward.

ETA If you think it's boring to drive you aren't going quick enough.

Edited by rustybin on Tuesday 4th March 15:06
Agree with this.

The National is boring to drive no matter how fast you are going laugh Have never done the full circuit but as good as some of the fast corners may be the huge run-offs rather detract from the challenge for me, as there is no penalty for getting it wrong. Although I'm sure in an F1 car it is still exciting.

Edited by SimonY on Tuesday 4th March 18:52

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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rustybin said:
ETA If you think it's boring to drive you aren't going quick enough.
yes One of the best circuits in the world.


red5isalive

41 posts

223 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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waynepixel said:
Could someone point out where are the new spectator stands in this illustration?

They are not in the photo because its purpose is to illustrate the new pit and paddock complex.

One thing at a time...

red5isalive

41 posts

223 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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The other image that Silverstone has released has a little glimpse of what the grandstands could look like.

Think Hockenheim stadium section, and your getting close I believe.



Silverstone lacks a bit of atmosphere, but a stadium effect grandstand area would help achieve one i feel.

Edited by red5isalive on Tuesday 4th March 18:59


Edited by red5isalive on Tuesday 4th March 19:00

rustybin

1,769 posts

267 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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Interesting that the BRDC feel that Ferrari will win the previous years championship but that a Mclaren will be leading a Ferrari in the race.

SimonY

348 posts

237 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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Isn't it usually the other way around - championship winners in first garages? Therefore they think Ferrari and Mclaren will finish last in the constructors biggrin

rustybin

1,769 posts

267 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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SimonY said:
Isn't it usually the other way around - championship winners in first garages? Therefore they think Ferrari and Mclaren will finish last in the constructors biggrin
Championship winner gets to decide which end to be at.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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SimonY said:
rustybin said:
http://www.brdc.co.uk/news.cfm/title/SILVERSTONE.....

Bit more info here. Some realism is required. If one wants to enjoy a British GP, first you have to ensure you retain one. If this is what the BRDC needs to do to achieve that then so be it. Personaly I think this is a good way forward.

ETA If you think it's boring to drive you aren't going quick enough.

Edited by rustybin on Tuesday 4th March 15:06
Agree with this.

The National is boring to drive no matter how fast you are going laugh
The National is quite a challenge in an 800BHP car, especially the section from the pit straight to the exit of Beckets, braking into the complex is fun too as you are tanking on somewhat by then. biggrin

RichB

56,224 posts

313 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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rustybin said:
SimonY said:
Isn't it usually the other way around - championship winners in first garages? Therefore they think Ferrari and Mclaren will finish last in the constructors biggrin
championship winner gets to decide which end to be at.
I think they think that it's a photoshoped image so weren't bothered...

johnph

1,097 posts

258 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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johnfelstead said:
SimonY said:
rustybin said:
http://www.brdc.co.uk/news.cfm/title/SILVERSTONE.....

Bit more info here. Some realism is required. If one wants to enjoy a British GP, first you have to ensure you retain one. If this is what the BRDC needs to do to achieve that then so be it. Personaly I think this is a good way forward.

ETA If you think it's boring to drive you aren't going quick enough.

Edited by rustybin on Tuesday 4th March 15:06
Agree with this.

The National is boring to drive no matter how fast you are going laugh
The National is quite a challenge in an 800BHP car, especially the section from the pit straight to the exit of Beckets, braking into the complex is fun too as you are tanking on somewhat by then. biggrin
800bhp round the National sounds good - personally i'd like to see the Nascar Nationwide Series (i.e. second division) run there, given how awesome stock cars are on normal tracks. Imgaine 43 of these:



Thundering into Copse biggrin

bigbadbikercats

651 posts

237 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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mat205125 said:
Bring back Brands!
We've done this one before - for God's sake keep it away from Brands as I quite like the place as it is and wouldn't want to see it changed beyond all recognition...

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JG

red5isalive

41 posts

223 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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Brands will never host a GP again in my opinion, not unless F1 regs are dramatically changed. The track is very short, and there is not enough run-off areas/safety fencing on the GP loop. F1 cars are simply to fast, and put on a narrow circuit like brands, would give a boring show.

The place has a history and unique character, not to mention it being an absolute classic circuit to drive. It should be preserved, not ruined for the sake of one race a year.

JP has shown that for a circuit to flourish and be successful you do not need F1 in town. He has brought DTM, A1GP, WTCC plus many other great series to the circuit since taking over.

Anyway, back to topic...