Whos the best in the wet these days?
Whos the best in the wet these days?
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69elan+2

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14,178 posts

242 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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I'm reading 'Flat Out Flat Broke' at the moment, and when it rained it sounds like Perry Mcarthy was (is) a dab hand.

Also with a wet Monaco the other week and a the possibility of another wet one this weekend - who is now regarded as a rain master?





Sorry if this has been covered recently - I only drop in here if its an F1 weekend.

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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jenson button.

Martin Keene

11,493 posts

254 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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Hamilton's pretty handy in the wet, see Japan 07 and Monaco 08 for details.

Before anybody says it, I don't believe China 07 was his fault.

John D.

20,983 posts

238 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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Jenson is pretty handy, especially in changable wet/dry conditions (not full wet I mean).

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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Martin Keene said:
Hamilton's pretty handy in the wet, see Japan 07 and Monaco 08 for details.

Before anybody says it, I don't believe China 07 was his fault.
Or europe?

flemke

23,482 posts

266 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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stephen300o said:
Martin Keene said:
Hamilton's pretty handy in the wet, see Japan 07 and Monaco 08 for details.

Before anybody says it, I don't believe China 07 was his fault.
Or europe?
confused

If you're referring to when he went off, that was at the bottom of the pit straight, which is after a blind crest and down a fairly steep hill. Water had cascaded down the hill, so he came over the blind crest to find his car floating on a river. The same thing happened to six other drivers at the same time. It had nothing to do with one's wet-driving skills.

Alonso is plainly one of the best in the wet, as he demonstrated at that same race, which he won after overtaking Massa on the outside with a couple of laps remaining.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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No one falls off on purpose.

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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it doesn't matter how good you are... if your car is aquaplaning (read: floating) then you have no control at all. And as you can't know if there is a river on the track (especially if you can't see it), then if it happens it is clearly not the fault of the driver.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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DangerousMike said:
it doesn't matter how good you are... if your car is aquaplaning (read: floating) then you have no control at all. And as you can't know if there is a river on the track (especially if you can't see it), then if it happens it is clearly not the fault of the driver.
In my experience, where the blame lies depends on who is driving.;)

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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we've had a few races in the last 10 years where part of the track has been basically flooded. In each case, around 5 drivers went off at that point due to aquaplaning. It is clear to anyone watching that,once aquaplaning, the driver is no longer in control. If you've ever experienced the same in your car, for example on a motorway, then you will know that too.

entropy

6,441 posts

232 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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Vettel

ph123

1,841 posts

247 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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I'm surprised how good LR is in the wet. Japan last year was staggering. That was a 2 time WC he saw off into the wall that race.
Vettel is good certainly, so too is Kubica.

Martin Keene

11,493 posts

254 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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flemke said:
stephen300o said:
Martin Keene said:
Hamilton's pretty handy in the wet, see Japan 07 and Monaco 08 for details.

Before anybody says it, I don't believe China 07 was his fault.
Or europe?
confused

If you're referring to when he went off, that was at the bottom of the pit straight, which is after a blind crest and down a fairly steep hill. Water had cascaded down the hill, so he came over the blind crest to find his car floating on a river. The same thing happened to six other drivers at the same time. It had nothing to do with one's wet-driving skills.

Alonso is plainly one of the best in the wet, as he demonstrated at that same race, which he won after overtaking Massa on the outside with a couple of laps remaining.
Well put sir. Sadly stephen300o seems intent on ignoring the facts... The first 6 drivers on the scene of the river ended up in the kitty litter it was only when it made clear with double waved yellows, marshalls waving, etc, that the drivers that survived it realised there was a major problem and slowed down accordingly.

absolutely

3,168 posts

221 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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Me! And my Dad!

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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Martin Keene said:
flemke said:
stephen300o said:
Martin Keene said:
Hamilton's pretty handy in the wet, see Japan 07 and Monaco 08 for details.

Before anybody says it, I don't believe China 07 was his fault.
Or europe?
confused

If you're referring to when he went off, that was at the bottom of the pit straight, which is after a blind crest and down a fairly steep hill. Water had cascaded down the hill, so he came over the blind crest to find his car floating on a river. The same thing happened to six other drivers at the same time. It had nothing to do with one's wet-driving skills.

Alonso is plainly one of the best in the wet, as he demonstrated at that same race, which he won after overtaking Massa on the outside with a couple of laps remaining.
Well put sir. Sadly stephen300o seems intent on ignoring the facts... The first 6 drivers on the scene of the river ended up in the kitty litter it was only when it made clear with double waved yellows, marshalls waving, etc, that the drivers that survived it realised there was a major problem and slowed down accordingly.
Their the good ones in wet conditionssmile

Joe911

2,763 posts

264 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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This bloke isn't too bad in the wet ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E93ag4Rp-Gg

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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Walter is just taking it easy there, it's easy in a decent power RWD car to drive like that. It wouldn't look like that if he was going for a time.wink

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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stephen300o said:
Martin Keene said:
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Well put sir. Sadly stephen300o seems intent on ignoring the facts... The first 6 drivers on the scene of the river ended up in the kitty litter it was only when it made clear with double waved yellows, marshalls waving, etc, that the drivers that survived it realised there was a major problem and slowed down accordingly.
Their the good ones in wet conditionssmile
the other guys didn't see flags so didn't know to slow down... and they couldn't see the river because it was over a crest...

absolutely

3,168 posts

221 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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I have heard, Walter Rohl can do the Ring in dense fog going the oppostite way!

flemke

23,482 posts

266 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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absolutely said:
I have heard, Walter Rohl can do the Ring in dense fog going the oppostite way!
One year in the 'ring 24 back in the early '90s, at night and with thick fog, he turned his lights completely off so that the driver behind couldn't follow his lead.