RAIN FOR BRITISH GP?
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marcia1

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5,099 posts

219 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Been watching weather intently and they are saying unsettled weekend ahead while i hope we don't get too much rain cause we are camping all weekend a wet race would make things more interesting,was hoping to get a bit of a suntan frown but nevermind i am sure we will still enjoy it .

Chris/Keeley

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256 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Likewise. Were camping and have been almost obsessed with what the weather is going to do. I keep checking different reports hoping one will say blazing sunshine all weekend - no chance!

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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It's going to throw it down.

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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smile
Feel sorry for the campers, but from the exalted position of my living room couch I'll be praying and dancing simultaneously for rain!

Edited by zac510 on Wednesday 2nd July 10:47

marcia1

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219 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Will make a more exciting race so thats a bonus i suppose have got full waterproofs so not a problem- can't wait nowbouncewoohoo

R360

4,504 posts

235 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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zac510 said:
smile
Feel sorry for the campers, but from the exalted position of my living room couch I'll be praying and dancing simultaneously for rain!

Edited by zac510 on Wednesday 2nd July 10:47
+1 i will be hoping for rain too, and ofcourse another ferrari 1-2 will be lovely...

Edited by R360 on Wednesday 2nd July 14:50

castrolcraig

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235 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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R360 said:
zac510 said:
smile
Feel sorry for the campers, but from the exalted position of my living room couch I'll be praying and dancing simultaneously for rain!

Edited by zac510 on Wednesday 2nd July 10:47
+1 i will be hoping for rain too, and of course another ferrai 1-2 will be assured due to fia interferance...
EFA

Edited by castrolcraig on Wednesday 2nd July 13:03

marcia1

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219 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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IMO i think lewis has definately got the car and the ability to win this gp i think he willyes

BoRED S2upid

21,047 posts

269 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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R360 said:
zac510 said:
smile
Feel sorry for the campers, but from the exalted position of my living room couch I'll be praying and dancing simultaneously for rain!

Edited by zac510 on Wednesday 2nd July 10:47
+1 i will be hoping for rain too, and ofcourse another ferrai 1-2 will be lovely...
Me too. Bring it on I say!.

R360

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235 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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castrolcraig said:
R360 said:
zac510 said:
smile
Feel sorry for the campers, but from the exalted position of my living room couch I'll be praying and dancing simultaneously for rain!

Edited by zac510 on Wednesday 2nd July 10:47
+1 i will be hoping for rain too, and of course another ferrari 1-2 will be assured due to fia interferance...
EFA

Edited by castrolcraig on Wednesday 2nd July 13:03
It does make me laugh when people comment on Ferrari only winning due to help from the FIA. Ferrari won last week due to having a good solid car, and a faultless race, except for Kimi's exhaust. Mclaren struggled due to Lewis's penalty on the grid and then the over take penalty, BMW were off pace all weekend. Ferrari won fair and square

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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R360 said:
It does make me laugh when people comment on Ferrari only winning due to help from the FIA. Ferrari won last week due to having a good solid car, and a faultless race, except for Kimi's exhaust. Mclaren struggled due to Lewis's penalty on the grid and then the over take penalty, BMW were off pace all weekend. Ferrari won fair and square
They may have won fair and square on the track, but there's no way Kimi's car should have stayed out on track with that chunk of metal swinging about the place.

craig_emp

80 posts

218 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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MrKipling43 said:
R360 said:
It does make me laugh when people comment on Ferrari only winning due to help from the FIA. Ferrari won last week due to having a good solid car, and a faultless race, except for Kimi's exhaust. Mclaren struggled due to Lewis's penalty on the grid and then the over take penalty, BMW were off pace all weekend. Ferrari won fair and square
They may have won fair and square on the track, but there's no way Kimi's car should have stayed out on track with that chunk of metal swinging about the place.
I'm sure Mclaren would have got a penalty for that!

R360

4,504 posts

235 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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MrKipling43 said:
R360 said:
It does make me laugh when people comment on Ferrari only winning due to help from the FIA. Ferrari won last week due to having a good solid car, and a faultless race, except for Kimi's exhaust. Mclaren struggled due to Lewis's penalty on the grid and then the over take penalty, BMW were off pace all weekend. Ferrari won fair and square
They may have won fair and square on the track, but there's no way Kimi's car should have stayed out on track with that chunk of metal swinging about the place.
Even though im a huge ferrari fan i have to say that i do agree to an extent. I think it could have been a pretty dangerous situation, im sure MS had a similar problem not long after he moved to Ferrari, in his case im sure i remember the car caught fire.

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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lewis got a penalty for doing something michael schumacher did (hungary 06?) without getting a penalty.

kovalainen got a penalty for doing nothing.

kimi didn't get a black/orange flag when he should have, for a very dangerous car.

R360

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Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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DangerousMike said:
lewis got a penalty for doing something michael schumacher did (hungary 06?) without getting a penalty.

kovalainen got a penalty for doing nothing.

kimi didn't get a black/orange flag when he should have, for a very dangerous car.
Lewis got a penalty for overtaking someone then cutting a chicane. Similar penaties have been imposed on people throughout the last few seasons, i cant remember the MS incident in hungary 06.

Heiki got a penalty for holding up Webber? in the qualyfying.

Both of the above are penalties, Kimi's incident on the other hand is a bit more complicated as the stewards need to deem the car to be dangerous, a threat to others, if this had been the case im sure they would have happily penalised Ferrari too.

Anyway i dont want to dwell over the last race, its the Brit GP this weekend and lets look forward to that and discuss that, like i said earlier im hoping Ferrari will be strong. After i left the test day last tues ferrari were looking quick but lewis ultimately had the pace on the last day of testing. Friday should be interesting...

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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if you watch the video, heikki was as far away from webber as he could get. Furthermore, he did not disadvantage Webber in any way (Webber was quick enough to reach the next session).

Hamilton had made the pass before the chicane, which he cut to avoid crashing his car, rather than make a pass or gain a position, or even maintain a position. Michael Schumacher purposefully cut the same chicane two laps in a row in Hungary to prevent Pedro de la Rosa from passing him. He tried a third time but failed to prevent the pass. he was not penalised.

it does not require much deliberation to decide if a sizeable chunk of hot metal, affixed to a car travelling at speeds up to 190 mph, whilst experiencing accelerative forces in the range of -2g to +4g, held on only a thin electrical wire is dangerous to other occupants of a race circuit.

skinny

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264 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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looks like big rain on saturday, high chance of rain for the race...

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BoRED S2upid

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269 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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skinny said:
looks like big rain on saturday, high chance of rain for the race...

http://www.feedmef1.com/html/modules.php?op=modloa...
On no not big rain, light showers we need. Big rain means saftey car parade. We need a slippy track and varying conditions for the best race.

R360

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235 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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DangerousMike said:
if you watch the video, heikki was as far away from webber as he could get. Furthermore, he did not disadvantage Webber in any way (Webber was quick enough to reach the next session).

Hamilton had made the pass before the chicane, which he cut to avoid crashing his car, rather than make a pass or gain a position, or even maintain a position. Michael Schumacher purposefully cut the same chicane two laps in a row in Hungary to prevent Pedro de la Rosa from passing him. He tried a third time but failed to prevent the pass. he was not penalised.

it does not require much deliberation to decide if a sizeable chunk of hot metal, affixed to a car travelling at speeds up to 190 mph, whilst experiencing accelerative forces in the range of -2g to +4g, held on only a thin electrical wire is dangerous to other occupants of a race circuit.
All your points are valid, i must admit i was surprised to see Heiki get a penalty but we did not get to see the telementary, so it may not have appeared to slow Webber down on the tv footage, but the telementary may tel a different story.
As for Lewis i think he should have just moved over and then gone for the pass again, The MS situation again i am not going to try to comment on this too much as i cant remember the incident.
Finally with Kimi the race stewards would have had a look into whether or not they deemed the car to be safe, and obviously they did hence Kimi was able to continue racing, also if it had really been that dangerous im sure he would have slowed down, where as if you look at his race pace, he was slow for about 8-10 laps but then was back up to pace again. He was obviously able to adjust the fuel mixture to allow him to continue racing.

Rain for this weekend will be a bonus, should really make things a lot more intereting.

skinny

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264 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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sorry, meant big chance of rain!!

england tends not to do things in extremes so we'll have light rain and grey skies i expect! smile