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caduceus

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6,126 posts

295 months

Sunday 6th July 2008
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Why do they even have the driver to pit talk evesdrop, when Brundle and the gray haired tt don't shut up when the graphic comes up?

Millions of people up and down the country can see the pigging graphic appear and flash green. Why can't ITVF1? ranting

And is it me, or are there even more ad breaks now than there used to be?

God I can't wait till BBC take the reins of the F1 parade. I have come to dispise itv.

Rant over.

And breath.....


dasherdiablo1

4,435 posts

250 months

Sunday 6th July 2008
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WTF is it about all the breaks.....they're like 3 mins each which means we are missing 2 laps each break!!!!!

ITV1 are complete to55ers.....lets hope the BBC get to sort this soon...

sniff petrol

13,125 posts

241 months

Sunday 6th July 2008
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dasherdiablo1 said:
WTF is it about all the breaks.....they're like 3 mins each which means we are missing 2 laps each break!!!!!

ITV1 are complete to55ers.....lets hope the BBC get to sort this soon...
It's always been 5 breaks through out the race.

Nicol@

3,851 posts

265 months

Sunday 6th July 2008
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Put live timing on your pc, then you don't miss anything while the adverts are on.

DSM2

3,624 posts

229 months

Sunday 6th July 2008
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It is poor. In the GP2 programme, yesterday there had been 2 breaks in the first 12 minutes.

Other than that Allan's commentary is so substandard, in so many ways. His grammar is poor (though not as bad as Blundell, it has to be said), his technical knowledge non existent, his observation sloth-like and his Hamilton fixation makes me cringe.

minimatt1967

17,381 posts

235 months

Sunday 6th July 2008
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DSM2 said:


Other than that Allan's commentary is so substandard, in so many ways. His grammar is poor (though not as bad as Blundell, it has to be said), his technical knowledge non existent, his observation sloth-like and his Hamilton fixation makes me cringe.
and his love for Ross Brawn and Ferrari is legendary... good job he doesn't come across as biased rolleyes

Edited by minimatt1967 on Sunday 6th July 16:25

RichB

56,247 posts

313 months

Sunday 6th July 2008
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sniff petrol said:
dasherdiablo1 said:
WTF is it about all the breaks.....they're like 3 mins each which means we are missing 2 laps each break!!!!!

ITV1 are complete to55ers.....lets hope the BBC get to sort this soon...
It's always been 5 breaks through out the race.
In the early days of ITV's F1 coverage they had shorter breaks and pushed them out to the 3 mins about 2 or 3 years ago.

Jinxy

143 posts

284 months

Sunday 6th July 2008
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If we didnt have the breaks we wouldn't have it on at all! The advertisements pay for it-well line Bernies pockets with gold.
Also Itv had to pay him 3M just for the 2 Friday practices/quali and the race to be shown on itv-f1, and they do have breaks aswell.

RobFerrari

793 posts

233 months

Sunday 6th July 2008
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DSM2 said:
Other than that Allan's commentary is so substandard, in so many ways. His grammar is poor (though not as bad as Blundell, it has to be said), his technical knowledge non existent, his observation sloth-like and his Hamilton fixation makes me cringe.
Agree completly.

The coverage was bad, and then it got worse. Now look at what we have! Since 2007> the coverage has got so awful its unbelivable, i mean i think its just the biasisms, but Allen just ruins everything, he has no racing knowledge whatsoever!

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Sunday 6th July 2008
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I don't think that is his problem. Having worked as a motorsport journalist for 20 odd years I'm sure he knows quite a bit about F1. His problem is his "style" as a commentator - which has been debated to death on here.

There are very many people who are extremely knowledgeable about all sorts of subjects. However, out of these, there are precious few who are good at communicating that knowledge with GENUINE passion and enthusiasm.

Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 6th July 18:38

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Sunday 6th July 2008
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Agreed Eric, if you read Allen's features on the ITV F1 website, they're actually pretty much on the button and generally quite insightful, its simply that he's not a great TV commentator. Hamilton fixation aside, I personally I don't think he's quite as bad as people make out anyway, its just fashionable to bash him so people prey on every word looking for mistakes then highlight them on forums like these. I suspect if we did the same to Murray 10-15 years ago, each race thread would be on average twice as long as those now! biggrin

Edited by LocoBlade on Sunday 6th July 22:21

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Sunday 6th July 2008
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Well I enjoyed hearing the press conference in full - OK, so I was at the circuit and it was like listening to the radio whilst taking a cold shower...and do you know what...every time that radio graphic came up, the circuit commentators shut up - James Allen could learn a lot from them.

They earnt their money today, those drivers - Club was super tricky - fantastic to see the cars sliding there.


grahamdance

464 posts

266 months

Sunday 6th July 2008
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I thought the ITV commentary was fairly bad today, both Brundle and Allan were slow to notice things happening, talking over radio feeds, mixing up team mates (different colour helmets and camera mounts aren't that hard to spot).

I couldn't do much better! But there seemed to be a lot of more noticeable errors today.

tonyvid

9,889 posts

272 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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The breaks near the end of the race had me shouting at the telly. How do they manage to transmit 90mins of footy without a break but not this?

GuildfordPaul

467 posts

235 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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talking over radio transmitions really pisses me off as well.

BUT the thing that really had me shouting at the tv yesterday, was when Kimi had caught Lewis and was all over his tail end, they decided it was better to watch fking Alonso pit, then exit the pit lane, then start off his lap, what the fk is happening between lewis and kimi!! The most exciting part of the race so far and the next we saw of them was both cars entering the pit lane!!

sjp63

1,997 posts

301 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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I was there yesterday and was surprised at the apparent lack of visible TV cameras to film the race. Doing it on the cheap?

456lbft

321 posts

256 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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Hopefully, the BBC will spend some of the revenue generated by Top Gear's international sales, and give us the sort of coverage F1 deserves.

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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sjp63 said:
I was there yesterday and was surprised at the apparent lack of visible TV cameras to film the race. Doing it on the cheap?
The programme has the host broadcaster down as "FOM" - not ITV or BBC (ISTR ITV use a BBC service???)

Also I clocked an extra camera at Vale this year


skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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GuildfordPaul said:
talking over radio transmitions really pisses me off as well.

BUT the thing that really had me shouting at the tv yesterday, was when Kimi had caught Lewis and was all over his tail end, they decided it was better to watch fking Alonso pit, then exit the pit lane, then start off his lap, what the fk is happening between lewis and kimi!! The most exciting part of the race so far and the next we saw of them was both cars entering the pit lane!!
unfortunately the broadcaster can't chose tv feeds to suit theiri commentary or even what's going on in the race sometimes! during the race there is only one race feed of race action that everyone has to use (they can cut to interviews and stuff i think but i don't think they can choose to switch to on-board camera's which is a shame as they always seem to do on-boards on the boring straights and switch to external shots through the corners where you can't really see the speed so well).