Alonso going to Ferrari?
Alonso going to Ferrari?
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skeggysteve

Original Poster:

5,724 posts

246 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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Autosport article

First line of the above article:

Spanish banking giant Santander is set to become a Ferrari sponsor in 2010, high level sources have told autosport.com.

Makes sense.

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

271 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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That explains why he was first to go to massa after his off in practice at Silverstone..

Alonso to Massa said:
See this car you just wrecked?...Next year it's mine

Scooby_snax

1,279 posts

283 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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and explains why he will announce his 2009 intentions at Monza

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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So why bother to spend big bucks on an Abbey campaign fronted by Hamilton - that didn't strike me as a last minute lash-up thrown together by Santander when they realised Alonso was on his toes....

But I am pretty sure Alonso has a contract for 2010 or at least an option with Ferrari

j1

276 posts

227 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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rubystone said:
But I am pretty sure Alonso has a contract for 2010 or at least an option with Ferrari
I'd agree with that, Renault look to be along way off being competitive again.

RichBeard

1,677 posts

224 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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I can't see Alonso going to Ferrari, he doesn't seem the team player type. Ferrari would have to stop the drivers racing each other to keep him happy. Saying that Alonso has been racing very well in the Renault and does seem to deserve a good car. I can see BMW looking for new drivers soon i would have thought Kubica would have been a likely to go to Ferrari. But with Alonso i think it's just speculation once again ignited by a sponsor, don't think it will happen.

absolutely

3,168 posts

221 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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Its old news, they've always said he is going to Ferrari.

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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RichBeard said:
I can't see Alonso going to Ferrari, he doesn't seem the team player type. Ferrari would have to stop the drivers racing each other to keep him happy. Saying that Alonso has been racing very well in the Renault and does seem to deserve a good car. I can see BMW looking for new drivers soon i would have thought Kubica would have been a likely to go to Ferrari. But with Alonso i think it's just speculation once again ignited by a sponsor, don't think it will happen.
Ferrari are the best at stopping the drivers from racing each other. Just look at their last 10yr history.
Why do you think BMW will look for new drivers?

deadslow

8,788 posts

252 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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RichBeard said:
I can't see Alonso going to Ferrari, he doesn't seem the team player type. Ferrari would have to stop the drivers racing each other
So, which Ferrari are you deaming about?

j1

276 posts

227 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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zac510 said:
Ferrari are the best at stopping the drivers from racing each other. Just look at their last 10yr history.
Exactly, Schumacher always took priority at Ferrari and a similar set up would suit Alonso.

deadslow

8,788 posts

252 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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j1 said:
zac510 said:
Ferrari are the best at stopping the drivers from racing each other. Just look at their last 10yr history.
Exactly, Schumacher always took priority at Ferrari and a similar set up would suit Alonso.
It would suit anyone, and if you could deliver both championships, you'd expect to be supported to the hilt.

If a team fails to see this, and would rather take a total loss and massive fine then boo hoo.

Or ha ha.

depending

j1

276 posts

227 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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deadslow said:
j1 said:
zac510 said:
Ferrari are the best at stopping the drivers from racing each other. Just look at their last 10yr history.
Exactly, Schumacher always took priority at Ferrari and a similar set up would suit Alonso.
It would suit anyone, and if you could deliver both championships, you'd expect to be supported to the hilt.

If a team fails to see this, and would rather take a total loss and massive fine then boo hoo.

Or ha ha.

depending
On last seasons evidence it appears Alonso can't operate any other way though..

deadslow

8,788 posts

252 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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j1 said:
deadslow said:
j1 said:
zac510 said:
Ferrari are the best at stopping the drivers from racing each other. Just look at their last 10yr history.
Exactly, Schumacher always took priority at Ferrari and a similar set up would suit Alonso.
It would suit anyone, and if you could deliver both championships, you'd expect to be supported to the hilt.

If a team fails to see this, and would rather take a total loss and massive fine then boo hoo.

Or ha ha.

depending
On last seasons evidence it appears Alonso can't operate any other way though..
God, how wrong. He had both championships in the palm of his hand, and offered them to McLaren, but Ron backed the wrong(Ron g) horse and lost everything. It's Rons's team; they exist to win, if you are Ron's fave. Sad waste of brilliant technical ability.

flemke

23,485 posts

266 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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deadslow said:
j1 said:
zac510 said:
Ferrari are the best at stopping the drivers from racing each other. Just look at their last 10yr history.
Exactly, Schumacher always took priority at Ferrari and a similar set up would suit Alonso.
It would suit anyone, and if you could deliver both championships, you'd expect to be supported to the hilt.

If a team fails to see this, and would rather take a total loss and massive fine then boo hoo.

Or ha ha.

depending
One team has a strict policy of equal treatment for drivers, and any new driver can read this when he signs his contract.

If a driver fails to see this, and would rather act like a spoiled brat who can't deal with a driver as good as he is, and then decides to try to get his way by blackmailing the team principal, which causes him to be sacked, then boo hoo.

Or ha ha.

depending.

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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deadslow said:
God, how wrong. He had both championships in the palm of his hand, and offered them to McLaren, but Ron backed the wrong(Ron g) horse and lost everything. It's Rons's team; they exist to win, if you are Ron's fave. Sad waste of brilliant technical ability.
My god! That's amazing! You've actually managed to type out of your arse. Impressive stuff.

Redlake27

2,255 posts

273 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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If Alonso does go to Ferrari in 2010, it wouldn't surprise me if a new Number two joined as well.

If Kimi retires, Massa will either be 1) A bit of a thorn in Alonsos side 2) Still a bit random to be a true number one

As they did with Irvine and Barrichello, I think Ferrari could plump for someone who by then has proven themselves to be a solid number two, with race winning form when needed.

And Massa could go and earn loads at Toyota or Honda

bordseye

2,234 posts

221 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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IMHO Alonso is the classic example of a driver who can win in an outstanding car, but struggles with anything less. So maybe he will be a good match for Ferrari but definitely as a second string to someone like Kimi.

There are a lot of F1 drivers who are good enough on their day to win in an outstanding car but there are only 2 or 3 really outstanding drivers and I wouldnt include Alonso in my list.

deadslow

8,788 posts

252 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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flemke said:
One team has a strict policy of equal treatment for drivers
Not according to DC, who states openly that the team gets behind their favourite.

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

256 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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MrKipling43 said:
deadslow said:
God, how wrong. He had both championships in the palm of his hand, and offered them to McLaren, but Ron backed the wrong(Ron g) horse and lost everything. It's Rons's team; they exist to win, if you are Ron's fave. Sad waste of brilliant technical ability.
My god! That's amazing! You've actually managed to type out of your arse. Impressive stuff.
hehe


Tony

Derek Smith

49,730 posts

277 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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The one team/one man regime was brought in with Ross who, I would assume, saw it as the only way Ferrari could win the drivers' championship, the crown that the team hadn't been able to take since Jodi Sheckter in 79. 20 years of famine despite having the largest budget around was a bit of a condemnation of the team. When Ross ran the firm the Ferrari number two was of no account. MSchumacher demanded complete and utter no 1 status and got it. All the other teams ran their cars with a nominal number one but for Ferrari there was no argument. For all the posing of the Ferrari number twos, they were emasculated. Even when MSchuey drove into the scenery Eddie turned out not to be quite so fast as he reckoned.

McLaren ran the team as equal opportunities. However, for all of DC's great performances he was always second string on the ability level. RD showed a degree of patience with him that many felt was misplaced but my feeling is that DC must have brought something of value to the team. What he didn't bring was the ability to win the championship.