What do you want from F1 coverage?
What do you want from F1 coverage?
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theboyfold

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11,469 posts

255 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Guys & Gals

If you could do anything to the F1 coverage, what would you do (By the way, remove James Allen is a given!)

I'm thinking more about getting extra data, feeds or audio.

What else do you have on when you are watching the coverage, which websites, commentary etc etc

Stuismyname

1,706 posts

266 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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I guess a "red button" feed into the grid girls' dressing room is out of the question?

Failing that, a live feed of speed/revs/gear/G/braking, steering, throttle input etc for all drivers could be quite interesting.

mcdjl

5,753 posts

224 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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No advert breaks!

John D.

20,990 posts

238 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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mcdjl said:
No advert breaks!
yes

More on-board footage too (I know this is probably kept for a pay-per-view channel)

ginettag27

7,098 posts

298 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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mcdjl said:
No advert breaks!
+1

carter711

1,849 posts

227 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Advert breaks are the worst part, but i hear they are going to be no more next year.
Also the intro part is a bit cheesy, James Bond/ gambling theme is not required! It's no that bad though.

JP_Midget

438 posts

240 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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I think that actually something akin to the way Dave do their WRC coverage would be good... in so far as a regular program every week which could go indepth into what is happening in F1, or expand it down as required so that they can get the interest up.

Almost a kind of 'football focus' of motorsport to aid the continuity of motorsport coverage on the BBC. Whether there is time in the schedule is another thing, but they do have their other digital channels available.

:J:

2,593 posts

254 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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After using one of those Kangaroo TV things at the British GP, all of that on my red button would do me nicely smile

And of course no ads wink

GBRM

954 posts

257 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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John D. said:
mcdjl said:
No advert breaks!
yes

More on-board footage too (I know this is probably kept for a pay-per-view channel)
+1

(P.S. I think the FIA PPV is no longer)

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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in terms of feed, more in car. every car has a camera or a dummy - but they aren't that expensive surely and have them all going to a digital recorder so that if external camera's miss something, then they can go to the onboard for a replay. plus stop cutting away from in-car footage just as the car approaches a corner!

in terms of coverage, more in depth interviews and analysis, especially with drivers. sometimes you get some little snippets of info from a driver but the interviewers are just not good enough to pick up / expand on it. like at silverstone when heidfeld was talking about how different cars were strong at different parts of the race as a clear indication of how they used their tyres. track analysis by alex wurz i always found great, talking about how the car reacted at each corner, what the driver would need to do with brake balance, diff settings etc.

fastfreddy

8,577 posts

266 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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skinny said:
in terms of feed, more in car. every car has a camera or a dummy - but they aren't that expensive surely and have them all going to a digital recorder so that if external camera's miss something, then they can go to the onboard for a replay. plus stop cutting away from in-car footage just as the car approaches a corner!
Onboards are already recorded for replays and they are more expensive than you might think, plus there are a limited number of frequencies available so even if they could afford to put 4 cameras on every car, it may not be possible from a technical point of view.

HD onboards would be nice, but that's a lot more expensive. I agree about having more expert's opinions though. A bit more background info on the teams/drivers/cars when the racing gets boring would be nice. It's done a lot in the States for all sorts of sports coverage. Several pre-prepared insterts with short interviews, technical info, statistics etc etc.

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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skinny said:
in terms of coverage, more in depth interviews and analysis, especially with drivers. sometimes you get some little snippets of info from a driver but the interviewers are just not good enough to pick up / expand on it. like at silverstone when heidfeld was talking about how different cars were strong at different parts of the race as a clear indication of how they used their tyres. track analysis by alex wurz i always found great, talking about how the car reacted at each corner, what the driver would need to do with brake balance, diff settings etc.
yes

Make the coverage a whole lot more technical, and I mean a lot more. Explain what the various things do and how they affect the handling, the innovations but for Gods sake don't dumb it down.

ITV did go some way to that, certainly compared to the BBC, so credit where it's due.

GBRM

954 posts

257 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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skinny said:
in terms of feed, more in car. every car has a camera or a dummy - but they aren't that expensive surely and have them all going to a digital recorder so that if external camera's miss something, then they can go to the onboard for a replay. plus stop cutting away from in-car footage just as the car approaches a corner!
I think every car has a camer now as all the teams complained about the aero and weight (hence why they have them above the airbox rather than on the side.

I think the digital tv the FIA did was really good but it didn't take off (probably cost) but I think they still have all the equipment so it would be great if that was made available.

Fer

7,773 posts

309 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Murray Walker!

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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I want to see more cheesy poses of unshaven F1 drivers in tuxedos when coming back from the ad break!

Muzzer

3,814 posts

250 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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'Driver cam' - similar to 'Player cam' on the football.

That way, if I choose, I can follow an entire 3 laps of Nakajima on board.

It would also remove the risk of missing out on great qualifying laps because the local director is following is countryman on screen.



MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Why is everyone saying no ad breaks?! It's going to be on the BBC next year - therefore, there are no adverts.

I reckon they should slash the BBC1 programme down to maybe half and hour before and after the race - to cater for the casual observer. But, on the red button they should have highly technical in-depth analysis before and after the race to cater for us bunch of sad bds. wink

Keeping the two programmes (sort of) separate would mean they wouldn't have to compromise on the tech/casual weighting of coverage.

Muzzer said:
'Driver cam' - similar to 'Player cam' on the football.

That way, if I choose, I can follow an entire 3 laps of Nakajima on board.

It would also remove the risk of missing out on great qualifying laps because the local director is following is countryman on screen.
And this.

Edited by MrKipling43 on Friday 15th August 12:44

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Muzzer said:
'Driver cam' - similar to 'Player cam' on the football.

That way, if I choose, I can follow an entire 3 laps of Nakajima on board.

It would also remove the risk of missing out on great qualifying laps because the local director is following is countryman on screen.
i believe kangaroo offers this at teh track so it would be great to have it on demand on tv

HiRich

3,337 posts

291 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Try watching the NASCAR coverage.
  • Near continuous rolling screen of positions (updated mid-lap), with gaps or other information subscripted. The rolling data may not be the best for F1, but it needs far more frequent data (particularly with splits) to understand what's going on.
  • Split screen action to follow another battle while keeping an eye on the leaders.
  • Call out boxes on screen (like speech bubbles, and tracking the cars in shot). So for example if you're watching Hamilton & Massa battling it might show fastest lap, last pit stop, prediction to next pit stop.
  • Far more, and better pit lane coverage (at least three reporters calling in). The NASCAR coverage is far more technical and informative.
  • Part-distance, through the field summary: ten seconds on every driver, how they're doing and what's happening.
You may not actually like the NASCAR style, but they've got a lot of features that are way ahead of the F1 standard.

And I agree that there's scope for much more detailed coverage. Better technical assessment (more akin to Match of The Day's post-match critique than Mark Blundell's "the lad done brilliant"). More info on what's been happening between races. Another good package to study would be ITV4's coverage of the Tour de France - the infill packages are much better thought through, and provide a deeper appreciation of the both event and the sport.

456mgt

2,513 posts

295 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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1) HD
2) Better audio. The difference between the sound on TV and in real life is staggering.