FIA and Ferrari - How many people believe:
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today was another perfect example of 'one rule for them, another rule for everybody else'.
Hamilton cuts a chicane in France because he loses control when fighting hard and he goes 'over the limit' and gets a stop go, Ferrari release Massa into somebodies path in a clearly tight pitlane almost causing an accident and they get off scott free.....again.
Hamilton cuts a chicane in France because he loses control when fighting hard and he goes 'over the limit' and gets a stop go, Ferrari release Massa into somebodies path in a clearly tight pitlane almost causing an accident and they get off scott free.....again.
tI'm sure this opinion won't be popular around these parts, but the result and punishment seems fair I reckon.
Massa should have lifted off, but the mistake was the team's and not his - the drivers have to rely 100% on the lights/lolly pop to leave their pit box. The team screwed up and its the team that have got the 10k fine. Him trying to lay the blame on Sutil is wrong though. For that he should have all his world championship points stripped off him and given to Hamilton
More worrying is the stweards bottled it when making a crucial decision that could have turned the race on its head.
Back to the original pole question though, and yip, they're hideously biased.
Massa should have lifted off, but the mistake was the team's and not his - the drivers have to rely 100% on the lights/lolly pop to leave their pit box. The team screwed up and its the team that have got the 10k fine. Him trying to lay the blame on Sutil is wrong though. For that he should have all his world championship points stripped off him and given to Hamilton
More worrying is the stweards bottled it when making a crucial decision that could have turned the race on its head.
Back to the original pole question though, and yip, they're hideously biased.
An 8000 pound fine... that'll learn 'em. It makes no difference if it is the team or driver at fault, the driver is part of the team. In the GP2 race drivers were penalised, it has been done in F1 before.
Whether the FIA are biased or not is irrelevent - the perception is that they may be. And that is the most damning fact. One wonders if there is another Mosley scandal out there that Ferrari are holding back...
Whether the FIA are biased or not is irrelevent - the perception is that they may be. And that is the most damning fact. One wonders if there is another Mosley scandal out there that Ferrari are holding back...
I think in this case - the fine was probably right
Looking at the history of these things - a collision will 100% guarantee a penalty eg Lewis and Rosberg in Montreal. But a near miss generally doesn't. Though if that had been a Mclaren on a Ferrari - then it would be a stop and go during the race. No doubt
The FIA are totally bias to Ferrari or should that actually be FOM and the FIA are 100% bias
I've said it many times on this forum - that there would be no F1 without Ferrari - it's that simple. So of course, FOM will be more flexible when it comes to making sure the most important part of the circus is kept happy. Fiat are never that far from pulling the plug on their support. You're either in with the in crowd, Bernie, Max, Ferrari and of Flav or you're not.
You're always going to help those who help you - it's a business. Full stop
You only have to look at this weekend's race to see it, in full effect. A totally soulless circuit. Zero overtaking, poor facilities and a poor crowd, with a huge racist factor going on (quite disgusting behaviour by the crowd when Lewis received his trophy)
anyway ... Flav managed to swing an extra race in Spain - a very poor market for F1. But did you know that Flav owns the TV rights for F1 in spain. So when Alonso didn't qualify in the top10 on Saturday, the look of disappointment on his face, wasn't just that his driver qualified 12th - that he knew that the very fickle spanish public wouldn't be tuning in for the race.
I can't see the logic of the fine. Either he did do something dangerous or he didn't. So Massa was very lucky. The last time they fined someone who didn't do anything wrong they had to pay $100,000,000.
But the collision aside, Kimi's take off was most certainly dangerous and to prove it there is an injured mechanic. His offence was a classic case of driving off too early. He should have been fined.
But the collision aside, Kimi's take off was most certainly dangerous and to prove it there is an injured mechanic. His offence was a classic case of driving off too early. He should have been fined.
i think you mean believe scuffers 
Massa drove an absolutely perfect weekend in my view, but the way Rob Smedley seem to make it sound as a team error not driver is completely wrong.
Massa is part of the team and they all work together to get the car to the finish, I am a Lewis supporter and not Ferrari but they always seem to get their own way being as two other GP2 teams were penalised for the same offence in the same weekend.
Massa is part of the team and they all work together to get the car to the finish, I am a Lewis supporter and not Ferrari but they always seem to get their own way being as two other GP2 teams were penalised for the same offence in the same weekend.
I don't even see where the problem is, I've seen cars running side by side down the pitlane many times before in F1 with no fines or penalties?
Allen and Brundle were like a (particularly annoying) dog with a bone over it as well. Quite clear that they wanted Lewis to take the points, a shame when Massa had driven a faultless race. Not really the way you would want to win if you were Lewis imo.
Allen and Brundle were like a (particularly annoying) dog with a bone over it as well. Quite clear that they wanted Lewis to take the points, a shame when Massa had driven a faultless race. Not really the way you would want to win if you were Lewis imo.
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