FIA to check Massa's engine

[woof]

Felipe Massa's engine will be the next power unit to be looked at by the FIA following the governing body's decision to carry out random checks this season.

The process began at the German Grand Prix, where Lewis Hamilton's engine was the first to be sealed so the checks could be carried out.

Current rules prevent engine manufacturers from making technical changes over the course of the season.

The FIA said Massa's engine will be next.

"The engine of car number 02 is kept sealed in order to carry out further checks according to Article 5 of the 2008 FIA Formula One Technical Regulations. These checks will be done before the Italian GP," said the FIA in a statement.

Now - wouldn't it be great if ....

Hugely unlikely - i doubt Ferrari are running anything illegal
well not that anyone has found out about yet

Massa's engine was already turned down a bit - seems like there were worried about it's durability again

[Vesuvius 996]

The FIA are going to secretly fit a supercharger to it.

[Gad-Westy]

Vesuvius 996 said:

The FIA are going to secretly fit a supercharger to it.

[Fivepercent]

woof said:

Massa's engine was already turned down a bit - seems like there were worried about it's durability again

You believe the cock now!
Ferrari denied this.
And Massa's lap times and winning a race that is hard on engines supports this.

[tomTVR]

It makes sense to have turned it down though, it is on its second race and Ferrari have been having some reliability issues.

Good that it is to be inspected though.

[E30M3SE]

Fivepercent said:

woof said:

Massa's engine was already turned down a bit - seems like there were worried about it's durability again

You believe the cock now!
Ferrari denied this.
And Massa's lap times and winning a race that is hard on engines supports this.

On the TV graphic that I saw Massa'a engine was pulling 18,800-18,900 RPM's in 7th Gears, if that is turned down I'd like to see it in it's normal mode.

Edited by E30M3SE on Monday 8th September 14:12

Edited by E30M3SE on Monday 8th September 14:20

[Cuban]

Vesuvius 996 said:

The FIA are going to secretly fit a supercharger to it.

[Scuffers]

E30M3SE said:

Fivepercent said:

woof said:

Massa's engine was already turned down a bit - seems like there were worried about it's durability again

You believe the cock now!
Ferrari denied this.
And Massa's lap times and winning a race that is hard on engines supports this.

No the TV graphic that I saw Massa'a engine was pulling 18,800-18,900 RPM's in 7th Gears, if that is turned down I'd like to see it in it's normal mode.

Edited by E30M3SE on Monday 8th September 14:12

there's more to turning the engine down than running less revs...

most of it is to do with how close to the edge the timming is run, if you pull the revs off, unless you have too tall a gearing, you suddenly limit your top speed...

[evenflow]

Fivepercent said:

And Massa's ... winning a race that is hard on engines supports this.

Oooo, contraversial!

[E30M3SE]

Scuffers said:

E30M3SE said:

Fivepercent said:

woof said:

Massa's engine was already turned down a bit - seems like there were worried about it's durability again

You believe the cock now!
Ferrari denied this.
And Massa's lap times and winning a race that is hard on engines supports this.

No the TV graphic that I saw Massa'a engine was pulling 18,800-18,900 RPM's in 7th Gears, if that is turned down I'd like to see it in it's normal mode.

Edited by E30M3SE on Monday 8th September 14:12

there's more to turning the engine down than running less revs...

most of it is to do with how close to the edge the timming is run, if you pull the revs off, unless you have too tall a gearing, you suddenly limit your top speed...

None of us are going to have that information, so rev's and performance is the only thing to go by, and he was catching the lead pair after his second pit stop and IIRC he had one of the highest apex speeds at turn 10 and in the speed trap i don't think it was appreciably 'turned down', just my opionon of course.

[optimax sniffer]

Have ferrari been issued with the appropriate kit so they can re-seal their engine prior to the inspection?

Sorry...




I would have thought that engine inspections should be a surprise inspection rather than a 'we are going to inspect tour engine on xxxxx date'

[Scuffers]

optimax sniffer said:

Have ferrari been issued with the appropriate kit so they can re-seal their engine prior to the inspection?

Sorry...




I would have thought that engine inspections should be a surprise inspection rather than a 'we are going to inspect tour engine on xxxxx date'

to be fair, that would be hard to do...

engines are sealed at their first race, then the FIA have said they want to inspect, so the seals have to remain intact on that engine (till they inspect it).

FIA have no facility to inspect the engine at the track, or take it out of the car to inspect somewhere else, this is no different to normal practice...

if this was Massa's engines first race, then they would have to leave it sealed anyway, but as it was it's second, normally Ferarri would have stripped it by now to check for any issues etc.

Edited by Scuffers on Monday 8th September 15:12

[RDMcG]

FIA will find that Ferrari engine significantly below spec and wil give Massa a bonus lap advantage next race to make up for the deficit.

[dpbird90]

they will probably determine it's not a proper V8, just 2 Seicento engines somehow glued together so they will give him a minute's head start and make Hamilton start the Italian GP from Woking.

[mchammer89]

evenflow said:

Fivepercent said:

And Massa's ... winning a race that is hard on engines supports this.

Oooo, contraversial!

Got a feeling that won't be appreciated by some.

[henna777]

RDMcG said:

FIA will find that Ferrari engine significantly below spec and wil give Massa a bonus lap advantage next race to make up for the deficit.

and deduct 25 secs for all future qualifying sessions for Massa

[Airbag]

Fivepercent said:

woof said:

Massa's engine was already turned down a bit - seems like there were worried about it's durability again

You believe the cock now!
Ferrari denied this.
And Massa's lap times and winning a race that is hard on engines supports this.

Massa didn't win the race I watched. Maybe you were watching a replay from another weekend?

[Mattygooner]

Who do you think supplied Max with the Girls.....they were all Todt's daughters.

[Munter]

I doubt they'll find anything out of order. It'd be ammusing if they did. But I dont think any of the front teams would be that silly. They might all (apart from Renault...dumb asses), use loopholes in the regs to develop certain parts of the engine. But I very much doubt theres anything "illegal" in there.

[Airbag]

Munter said:

I doubt they'll find anything out of order. It'd be ammusing if they did. But I dont think any of the front teams would be that silly. They might all (apart from Renault...dumb asses), use loopholes in the regs to develop certain parts of the engine. But I very much doubt theres anything "illegal" in there.

If they do, I'm sure the FIA will hand down a crippling 10k euro fine.