Worst No.2 in F1 - Kimi or Heiki?
Worst No.2 in F1 - Kimi or Heiki?

Poll: Worst No.2 in F1 - Kimi or Heiki?

Total Members Polled: 166

Kimi: 43%
Heiki: 57%
Author
Discussion

Wanta996Gotta

Original Poster:

5,622 posts

236 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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With Kimi's embarrassing incidents this season and Heiki showing that putting him into the Mclaren doesnt mean instant success then who is the biggest underperfomer?

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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ha, nice poll!

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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A troll with a sense of humour smile

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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I'd say in terms of speed HK is worse placed to help defend Hamilton's position, but that KR's attitude means he's unlikely to bust a gut to help Massa, even though he could.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

259 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Worst.


RacerMDR

5,582 posts

239 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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i voted for Heiki - just because i think on the whole this season, he hasn't been there to support Lewis at the front when required.

Although Kimi i think has made more errors.

its a tough one that

SeeFive

8,353 posts

262 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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I think that this is a bit of a dodgy question, given the parameters that are involved outside of the race, but in the spirit of how it has been asked, I would suggest that Kimi just shades it.

He is an experienced winner and the current WDC. He has been in the Ferrari for longer, has made a lot of driving errors this year, and is very inconsistent. Heiki just seems slower more often, but that may be because the car is more suited to LH's aggressive driving style.

Heiki is in his first season with the team, does not have the winning experience that Kimi has, and was probably in a position of less favour than Kimi was at the start of the season.

FNG

4,746 posts

253 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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I went for Heikki - he's not showing enough pace to get in about the Ferraris. He's had some bad breaks too, but mainly his race pace is just not good enough to have an effect.

Kimi might keep binning it, but if the #2 role is to take places from, or at least interfere with, the opposition then he's at least got the pace to do that, if not the consistency at the moment.

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Heikki is fkING Useless - they need to somehow get rid of him.

Maybe Alonso - He seems very FAST!!!

lewis1

311 posts

217 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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i cant see how u can call heiki useless?
its called a little less experience and a car not taylor made to him like hamilton has.
im sure next year he will be more up there. i went for kimi because he cant even finish a race without shunting at the moment

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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lewis1 said:
i cant see how u can call heiki useless?
its called a little less experience and a car not taylor made to him like hamilton has.
im sure next year he will be more up there. i went for kimi because he cant even finish a race without shunting at the moment
Sorry Heiki - Can do Absoluetly NAFF ALL With the Same Car and caves as soon as one of the top guys (i.e. LH get near him).

McLaren must be gutted the signed him on again a few months back - he does SOD ALL.

John D.

20,994 posts

238 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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10 Pence Short said:
I'd say in terms of speed HK is worse placed to help defend Hamilton's position, but that KR's attitude means he's unlikely to bust a gut to help Massa, even though he could.
Spot on. Heiki got my vote as at least Kimi is in amongst getting in the way and taking points occasionally.

williamp

20,392 posts

302 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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jellison said:
lewis1 said:
i cant see how u can call heiki useless?
its called a little less experience and a car not taylor made to him like hamilton has.
im sure next year he will be more up there. i went for kimi because he cant even finish a race without shunting at the moment
Sorry Heiki - Can do Absoluetly NAFF ALL With the Same Car and caves as soon as one of the top guys (i.e. LH get near him).

McLaren must be gutted the signed him on again a few months back - he does SOD ALL.
well, he's won one race this year, which isnt too bad for someone in their 2nd year in f1. But compared to the current drivers out there, its not very good at all!!

Jetl3on

1,409 posts

225 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Kimi is not the No2, but if he was, he has no excuse as he is the current world champion.

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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williamp said:
jellison said:
lewis1 said:
i cant see how u can call heiki useless?
its called a little less experience and a car not taylor made to him like hamilton has.
im sure next year he will be more up there. i went for kimi because he cant even finish a race without shunting at the moment
Sorry Heiki - Can do Absoluetly NAFF ALL With the Same Car and caves as soon as one of the top guys (i.e. LH get near him).

McLaren must be gutted the signed him on again a few months back - he does SOD ALL.
well, he's won one race this year, which isnt too bad for someone in their 2nd year in f1. But compared to the current drivers out there, its not very good at all!!
Yep - spot on the one he one was basically gift wrapped - means nothing. Waste of the 2nd Mac Seat.

haggle

889 posts

242 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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me think mclaren swap him and delarosa round for next year or hamiltion and rosberg i could see those two working well as a pair

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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haggle said:
hamiltion and rosberg i could see those two working well as a pair
Bang on - Heiki should be ok Delivering Milk back in Finland.

Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Neither.

It's got to be Nelsinho Piquet.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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10 Pence Short said:
I'd say in terms of speed HK is worse placed to help defend Hamilton's position, but that KR's attitude means he's unlikely to bust a gut to help Massa, even though he could.
exactly...

Must say I am dissapointed with Heiki's performance in the later half of the season, he seems to be going backwards, not forwards...

Be interesting to see somebody else in the seat, like maybe Davidson?

I guess the problem is that your always compared to your team mate and (waits for the barrage of abuse) LH is probably the team-mate you don't want to be compared to (look at Also last year)...

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Get Karter said:
Neither.

It's got to be Nelsinho Piquet.
I bet FA bought him a few Beer last nite though;)

FA is THE MAN.