Number 253 in the list of Mark Webber/Red Bull excuses
Number 253 in the list of Mark Webber/Red Bull excuses
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FourWheelDrift

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92,281 posts

313 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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"Apparently" his retirement in Singapore was due to static electricity from a passing Tram. laugh

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71054

Autosport said:
Red Bull Racing suspect that Mark Webber's retirement from the Singapore Grand Prix may have been caused by static electricity produced by a nearby tram.

Webber was forced out of the Singapore night race with his first mechanical failure of the season, just as it seemed he was on course to take a podium finish thanks to a brilliant pit call by his team under the first safety car.

But Webber pulled into the pits on lap 30 with a broken gearbox when it tried to select two gears at once. And without an obvious explanation for the problem, team principal Christian Horner suspects that total freak circumstances were to blame.

"At Turn 13 the gearbox selected two gears at one," Horner told Mark Hughes in this week's Autosport Singapore Grand Prix report. "The moog valve controlling the gearshift had been triggered into changing to seventh while he was still in fifth.

"Yet after interrogating the software we can see that it at no time was allowing for this. We can see a momentary electrical surge at the precise moment, which seems to have triggered the moog valve.

"It was exactly what [Toro Rosso] suffered from with (Sebastien) Bourdais in Friday practice, at exactly the same place. A tram line runs beneath the track at that corner and it seems as if static from a passing tram at the very moment Mark was in the corner passed through the ground."
That's a good one.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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FourWheelDrift said:
"Apparently" his retirement in Singapore was due to static electricity from a passing Tram. laugh

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71054

Autosport said:
Red Bull Racing suspect that Mark Webber's retirement from the Singapore Grand Prix may have been caused by static electricity produced by a nearby tram.

Webber was forced out of the Singapore night race with his first mechanical failure of the season, just as it seemed he was on course to take a podium finish thanks to a brilliant pit call by his team under the first safety car.

But Webber pulled into the pits on lap 30 with a broken gearbox when it tried to select two gears at once. And without an obvious explanation for the prohttp://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/formatting.htmblem, team principal Christian Horner suspects that total freak circumstances were to blame.

"At Turn 13 the gearbox selected two gears at one," Horner told Mark Hughes in this week's Autosport Singapore Grand Prix report. "The moog valve controlling the gearshift had been triggered into changing to seventh while he was still in fifth.

"Yet after interrogating the software we can see that it at no time was allowing for this. We can see a momentary electrical surge at the precise moment, which seems to have triggered the moog valve.

"It was exactly what [Toro Rosso] suffered from with (Sebastien) Bourdais in Friday practice, at exactly the same place. A tram line runs beneath the track at that corner and it seems as if static from a passing tram at the very moment Mark was in the corner passed through the ground."
That's a good one.
Well if they want someone on a short contract to sort out their shielding/grounding issues they can catch me through my profile.

getmecoat

phatgixer

4,988 posts

278 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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Red Bull 5h1t !

Le TVR

3,097 posts

280 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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Mojocvh said:
Well if they want someone on a short contract to sort out their shielding/grounding issues they can catch me through my profile.
yes +1

It's induced e.m.f. not static. Cant imagine that was included in the design brief either.

GBRM

954 posts

257 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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What a great excuse and duly noted in my racing drivers book of excuses.

dpbird90

5,535 posts

219 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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Why do teams have to give a huge 3 page documentation of any failures? If I were press officer 4 words would do it:

It went tits up.


Enough said

chim666

2,337 posts

294 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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If you look carefully, I believe there's a tram passing the circuit just before LH's car slows down wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNP_auAdM6Q

williamp

20,392 posts

302 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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This would certainly explain at Le mans, why all the cars were slower through Tetre Rouge then on the Mulsanne straight: thats the closest point to the tram nuts

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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Maybe this tram caused Ferrari's pit exit system to change to green? biggrin

Sorry, sorry!

bigburd

2,670 posts

229 months

Saturday 4th October 2008
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Hmmm wasn't it during testing where a Red Bull (or was it BMW) Mechanic got "tasered" by static from the KERS system test. Maybe next year they will blame the flux capacitor