MURRY`S BIGGEST GAFF?
MURRY`S BIGGEST GAFF?
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hot metal

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2,019 posts

222 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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I have hesitated to post this as it could be quite contravertial but it has bothered me for the last 11years since it happened as it was never mentioned to my mind,well here goes.
It was at the last F1 race at Jerez Portugal in 1997,how can anyone forget the Schumacher/Villeneuve incident.Prior to this after the first pit stops I think ,Villeneuve was chasing down Schuey and they were closing on Ralf to lap him .Michael gets past and then its Jacque`s turn,and Murray Walker says....well does anyone else remember before I say it ?

sorry for Murray spelling in title.


Edited by hot metal on Sunday 5th October 11:01

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Murray_Walkerbiggrin

"Well done Ukyo, well done Ukyo, you are a Japanese gentleman!"

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Edited by Jungles on Sunday 5th October 11:17

RedexR

1,861 posts

243 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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God , reading those..don,t we miss him laugh priceless

hot metal

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2,019 posts

222 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Still nobody remember the occasion in question ,? , confused

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Are you going to keep us in suspenders for ever?

hot metal

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2,019 posts

222 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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OK ,Murray said "lets see if Ralf plays the white man", now in Murray`s defence he is rather old school and the term probably went back to his army days when it was probably quite commonplace.Iremember watching the highlights that evening and it was edited out.

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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hot metal said:
OK ,Murray said "lets see if Ralf plays the white man", now in Murray`s defence he is rather old school and the term probably went back to his army days when it was probably quite commonplace.Iremember watching the highlights that evening and it was edited out.
What does the phrase mean? (Genuine question.)

phatgixer

4,988 posts

278 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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hot metal said:
I have hesitated to post this as it could be quite contravertial but it has bothered me for the last 11years since it happened as it was never mentioned to my mind,well here goes.
It was at the last F1 race at Jerez Portugal in 1997,how can anyone forget the Schumacher/Villeneuve incident.Prior to this after the first pit stops I think ,Villeneuve was chasing down Schuey and they were closing on Ralf to lap him .Michael gets past and then its Jacque`s turn,and Murray Walker says....well does anyone else remember before I say it ?

sorry for Murray spelling in title.


Edited by hot metal on Sunday 5th October 11:01
I was at that race, but I was in Spain, not Portugal..hehe

hot metal

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2,019 posts

222 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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phatgixer said:
hot metal said:
I have hesitated to post this as it could be quite contravertial but it has bothered me for the last 11years since it happened as it was never mentioned to my mind,well here goes.
It was at the last F1 race at Jerez Portugal in 1997,how can anyone forget the Schumacher/Villeneuve incident.Prior to this after the first pit stops I think ,Villeneuve was chasing down Schuey and they were closing on Ralf to lap him .Michael gets past and then its Jacque`s turn,and Murray Walker says....well does anyone else remember before I say it ?

sorry for Murray spelling in title.


Edited by hot metal on Sunday 5th October 11:01
I was at that race, but I was in Spain, not Portugal..hehe
Sorry my error silly

hot metal

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222 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Jungles said:
hot metal said:
OK ,Murray said "lets see if Ralf plays the white man", now in Murray`s defence he is rather old school and the term probably went back to his army days when it was probably quite commonplace.Iremember watching the highlights that evening and it was edited out.
What does the phrase mean? (Genuine question.)
In more recent years it would be considered racist,even when I was a kid ,but I think the expression may have grown up in the far east when the Allies were fighting the Japanese.If an enemy soldier appeared to surrender and was approached by an allied soldier he would then raise his arms releasing a pair of primed grenades(and other sneaky tricks),hence not playing the white man .Yes I know Murray fought in Europe.

Edited by hot metal on Sunday 5th October 13:21

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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His biggest gaffe was retiring and allowing James Allen to replace him.

flemke

23,488 posts

266 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Jungles said:
hot metal said:
OK ,Murray said "lets see if Ralf plays the white man", now in Murray`s defence he is rather old school and the term probably went back to his army days when it was probably quite commonplace.Iremember watching the highlights that evening and it was edited out.
What does the phrase mean? (Genuine question.)
I believe that its origin is racist: an idea that a "white man" is inherently more - pick your loaded adjective: "honest", "reliable", "honourable", "gentlemanly" - than persons of other races can be expected to be.
I suspect that it is one of the many contemptible relics of the Empire.

Asterix

24,438 posts

257 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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"The atmosphere is so tense you could cut it with a cricket stump"

Ecxellent! biggrin

Pilky

90 posts

221 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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"...Prost can see Mansell in his earphones..."
classic!

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

271 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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hot metal said:
I have hesitated to post this as it could be quite contravertial but it has bothered me for the last 11years since it happened
I'm sure the rest of us would be very happy if that was the worst thing on our minds for 11 years.

So, why bring it up now?. Does anyone actually care?

Sheaver1

93 posts

219 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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I remenber hearing him say that and yes, I did cringe! wobble

A couple of other beauties were, "The Ayrton Senna chicken is starting to push it's way through the shell", and, "I'll stop the start watch".

What a guy! I always liked his expressions like, "Give him the sniff of an oily rag...", and, "He'll be in there like a rat up a drainpipe!"

bounce

hot metal

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2,019 posts

222 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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MonkeyHanger said:
hot metal said:
I have hesitated to post this as it could be quite contravertial but it has bothered me for the last 11years since it happened
I'm sure the rest of us would be very happy if that was the worst thing on our minds for 11 years.

So, why bring it up now?. Does anyone actually care?
I obviously didnt put that very well,I didnt actually lose sleep over it or think of it that often and I doubt anyone cares.The same could be said for 95% of the nonsense on PH,but if you dont remember it happening why bother to post. .smile

OllieC

3,816 posts

243 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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"There goes Panis in the Prost. For years we knew them as Ligiers, because that is what they were called."

classic murray, even a dull race was enlivened by murray and james hunt biggrin

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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My fave was back when he still commentated on rallycross, and he was saying about the leader, " he can see perfectly through his clear windscreen" or something along those lines, next thing, guy goes off, straight into grass bank and out of race!! Quality

clonmult

10,529 posts

238 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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homicide said:
My fave was back when he still commentated on rallycross, and he was saying about the leader, " he can see perfectly through his clear windscreen" or something along those lines, next thing, guy goes off, straight into grass bank and out of race!! Quality
He'd found out something about the guy having worked out the positioning for a bunch of holes in the screen so that he'd be able to "see" throughout the race. Then Murray said that, and bang, he was out.

Murray is an absolute star, soooo incredibly enthusiastic about the sport, almost a child like love of it. Wonder what his view of the last few debacles is ....