Why won't someone just set Max Mosley on fire?
Why won't someone just set Max Mosley on fire?
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MrKipling43

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5,788 posts

245 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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Go away you crazy old megalomaniac!

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/170141-0/m...

Standard engines and gearboxes DEFEATS THE WHOLE POINT OF FORMULA 1! If I want single chassis, single engine races I'll watch GP2.

Why would manufacturers (or anyone, actually) want to be in Formula 1 if there's no technical challenge? That's always been the thing that's so cool and attractive about F1.

Mosley's a fking dhead, I honestly hope he falls under a bus and puts himself out of all our misery.

Edited by MrKipling43 on Wednesday 8th October 08:23

LanCat

423 posts

237 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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For a long time F1 was largely a single engine and gearbox formula with the Ford Cosworth. MM is wrong to insist on a single fixed package but reducing to 3 or 4 engines wouldn't actually be a bad thing.


Derek Smith

49,748 posts

277 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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MrKipling43 said:
Go away you crazy old megalomaniac!

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/170141-0/m...

Standard engines and gearboxes DEFEATS THE WHOLE POINT OF FORMULA 1! If I want single chassis, single engine races I'll watch GP2.

Why would manufacturers (or anyone, actually) want to be in Formula 1 if there's no technical challenge? That's always been the thing that's so cool and attractive about F1.

Mosley's a fking dhead, I honestly hope he falls under a bus and puts himself out of all our misery.
A man of his importance, one that he was born into, unlike us peasants, would not fall under a bus. It would have to be a private jet. Or, given his behaviour in the orgy, a train consisting of cattle trucks.

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

256 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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Derek Smith said:
MrKipling43 said:
Go away you crazy old megalomaniac!

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/170141-0/m...

Standard engines and gearboxes DEFEATS THE WHOLE POINT OF FORMULA 1! If I want single chassis, single engine races I'll watch GP2.

Why would manufacturers (or anyone, actually) want to be in Formula 1 if there's no technical challenge? That's always been the thing that's so cool and attractive about F1.

Mosley's a fking dhead, I honestly hope he falls under a bus and puts himself out of all our misery.
A man of his importance, one that he was born into, unlike us peasants, would not fall under a bus. It would have to be a private jet. Or, given his behaviour in the orgy, a train consisting of cattle trucks.
Or, a cattle truck with poor unfortunate Jews inside it!

Has MM ever denounced the Holocaust?


Tony

german tony

2,000 posts

237 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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LanCat said:
For a long time F1 was largely a single engine and gearbox formula with the Ford Cosworth. MM is wrong to insist on a single fixed package but reducing to 3 or 4 engines wouldn't actually be a bad thing.
We only have 6 engines now - which 2 or 3 should be obliged to leave the sport?

andyps

7,819 posts

311 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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The difference is that when there was essentially only one engine there were privateer teams, and cars which took very different routes in other areas - just look at the difference between a Lotus 72 and a Tyrrel of the same period.

I can't see Mercedes sticking around if they have to use a BMW engine for example. The only thing that car manufacturers provide which they can use to indicate a link to road cars is the engine - however tenuous this link is, it is the justification for the massive spend which is involved in F1. If that engine is nothing to do with the manufacturer who has their name on the front why would they spend the money.

Mosley has run out of ideas, and forgotten what makes the sport interesting. At the end of the day, if McLaren have an income of whatever amount from sponsorship etc. just because they can't spend it on an engine doesn't mean they won't spend it somewhere. And unless there is a limit on the amount of sponsorship a team can raise that will ever be thus.

german tony

2,000 posts

237 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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A lot more technological innovation was allowed back then, or at least, it was more obvious.

Max's problem is still that his team went down the toilet but he fails to recall that he had a cheap engine at the time too.

flemke

23,488 posts

266 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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Is human waste flammable?


skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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in the meantime, he (or the FIA) want to unfreeze certain engine freeze rules over the winter (presumably only for some competitors) so that power is equalised between teams for '09.

how is that even thinkable? will they literally strap them to a common dyno to ensure that they all have the same power curve!?

max needs to get kicked out asap, no two ways about it.

german tony

2,000 posts

237 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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flemke said:
Is human waste flammable?
Er, bottom gas is.

Ahonen

5,032 posts

308 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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This is great. As a sportscar racer I'm delighted to hear of Max's plans to make F1 a singe engine formula. The more he upsets the manufacturers, the better chance we have of seeing more of them at Le Mans in the future.

MrKipling43

Original Poster:

5,788 posts

245 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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flemke said:
Is human waste flammable?
With a healthy slug of everyone's favourite hydrocarbon it is, yeah!

Derek, the private jet thing made me lol. In the office at work - very embarrassing!

Derek Smith

49,748 posts

277 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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andyps said:
I can't see Mercedes sticking around if they have to use a BMW engine for example.
Indeed. D'you think this could be the reason why he's proposing it? Merc and some other manufacturers (with the exception of one) have been highly critical of Mosley in the past and Mosley is not one to forget imagined slights, let along real ones. There is little doubt that those not awarded with the contract will see little point in staying. Given his admitted favouritism for Ferrari, if he sources the engine from them what we'll have is Formula FiAt, a sort of open-wheeled Tuscan Challenge. Not that I'm critical of the TC. It was the most exciting motor racing forumla I've ever seen, but F1 it is not. Part of its attraction and fascination was that most drivers didn't seem to know what they were doing. The cheating was all part of the fun. I remember on car overtaking around four others along the short Home Straight at Brands being cheered as we all knew the engine was non-kosher.

Mercedes will not, if the financial crisis continues, move on to another senior motorsport formula but pull out entirely and concentrate on saloons.

Even in the days of the DFV we had half-empty grids so such a move is not the panacea that he is suggesting it is.

There's a lot resting on FOTA. If they can't agree and Mosley/FiA make the changes then there's every chance that F1 as we know and love it will be dead.

I can't help worrying that F1 as the pinnacle of motor sport might be at an end. We might, like the man that never was see some effigy in its place for a while but the sham will soon be discovered.

F1 is moving away from its fan base. No GP in Britain. It's not so much F1 shooting itself in the foot as shooting itself in the head.

rev-erend

21,619 posts

313 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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I would not piss on him if he was on Fire..

But I would if he was not hehe


Edited to add - those prostitutes probably all ready did that and he enjoyed it ..

Edited by rev-erend on Wednesday 8th October 12:14

flasher

9,317 posts

313 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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When you see the model that adorns his office you just know he's not impartial....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...

Xaero

4,063 posts

244 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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flasher said:
When you see the model that adorns his office you just know he's not impartial....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...
thats the first thing I noticed too from his interview yesterday