RE: More Good Luck for Lewis
RE: More Good Luck for Lewis
Monday 8th December 2008

More Good Luck for Lewis

Hamilton scoops top prize at Autosport awards



F1’s youngest World Champion Lewis Hamilton was named International Racing Driver of the Year at the Autosport magazine awards in London last night.

The young McLaren driver told an audience of F1 and motorsport glitterati of the pride he feels about his journey to the top – a tale that includes a first meeting with Ron Dennis at the same awards event a decade ago.

The precocious Hamilton declared ‘I’d like to race for you one day’, and shortly afterward a management contract was signed with McLaren that has steered his career ever since.

Looking on was former Autosport IRDY award winner Jenson Button who –in the wake of Honda’s shock withdrawal from F1 – might be forgiven for regarding Hamilton’s carefully chaperoned route to the World Championship with a jaded eye.

Button was International Racing Driver of the Year in 2004, but faces an uncertain future along with the rest of the Honda F1 team.

Speaking at the Awards Button declared himself hopeful that a buyer could be found for the team. ‘The team are working their arses off to produce a great car for 2009 and with the team and the attitude we have, I can't believe there's not anyone interested in buying the team and helping us out,’ he said.

Brawn has confirmed his commitment to seeing through any potential sale – and at least three suitors are reportedly waiting in the wings – but won’t necessarily stick around after that.

‘Whether I stay here long term is another matter. It depends on the level of the team, the new owners, whether I want to work with them. That is still open. The important thing is I am definitely committed to seeing the team through this phase to come out the other side.

‘I don't have any great interest in scratching around the back of the grid so if unfortunately the team cannot find owners who have the ability or aspirations to compete, then I will see it through and we will go from there,’ he told an Autosport reporter.

Meanwhile Lewis Hamilton has also been shortlisted for this year’s BBC Sports Personality of the Year award.

Former motor racing winners have included Damon Hill and Nigel Mansell (twice each), Jackie Stewart, Stirling Moss and John Surtees. David Coulthard and Jenson Button have both been shortlisted previously but never won.

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Dr Imran T

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2,301 posts

228 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Great he deserves it. Can't deny he is a talented driver. Youngest ever F1 champion smile

Edited by Dr Imran T on Monday 8th December 11:49

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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More good luck?! I don't think luck has ver much to do with it!

Why do people have to belittle achievements like this by putting it down to luck? rolleyes

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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More importantly

>>>>The readers of Autosport have nominated Allan McNish over Hamilton as the British Competition Driver of 2008, in recognition of his tremendous efforts and achievements in Europe and the States; that have included wins at Le Mans and the Petit Le Mans. The somewhat surprised Scot collected his trophy at last night’s Autosport Awards, from Tom Kristensen.
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E21_Ross

36,729 posts

241 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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MrKipling43 said:
More good luck?! I don't think luck has ver much to do with it!

Why do people have to belittle achievements like this by putting it down to luck? rolleyes
because of Glocks very slow last lap laugh

White-Noise

5,500 posts

277 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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MrKipling43 said:
More good luck?! I don't think luck has ver much to do with it!

Why do people have to belittle achievements like this by putting it down to luck? rolleyes
Just what I thought

zebedee

4,595 posts

307 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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E21_Ross said:
MrKipling43 said:
More good luck?! I don't think luck has ver much to do with it!

Why do people have to belittle achievements like this by putting it down to luck? rolleyes
because of Glocks very slow last lap laugh
thereby ignoring the points Hamilton won at all the other rounds and the fact that it was a concious decision to change tyres, whereas Glock didn't. Not really 'luck'

wl606

269 posts

229 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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White-Noise said:
MrKipling43 said:
More good luck?! I don't think luck has ver much to do with it!

Why do people have to belittle achievements like this by putting it down to luck? rolleyes
Just what I thought
+1

pits

6,704 posts

219 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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spoke with ex race driverm 18 seconds a lap lost....due to tyres, dont think so, besides that i can rhink of more deserving drivers of the award, hes done nothing significant really

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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pits said:
he's done nothing significant really
rofl

What, you mean apart from winning the World Drivers' Championship in his second season, you total muppet?

(or have I missed a joke?)

Alfanatic

9,339 posts

248 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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wl606 said:
White-Noise said:
MrKipling43 said:
More good luck?! I don't think luck has ver much to do with it!

Why do people have to belittle achievements like this by putting it down to luck? rolleyes
Just what I thought
+1
+2

FNG

4,747 posts

253 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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pits said:
spoke with ex race driverm 18 seconds a lap lost....due to tyres, dont think so, besides that i can rhink of more deserving drivers of the award, hes done nothing significant really
Someone who raced Stock Hatch Fiestas has no more idea than you do how many seconds can be lost on one lap using slicks on a soaking track.

I think your consultant hasn't driven an F1 car in those conditions - would I be right?

Ahonen

5,032 posts

308 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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pits said:
spoke with ex race driverm 18 seconds a lap lost....due to tyres, dont think so, besides that i can rhink of more deserving drivers of the award, hes done nothing significant really
Oooh, interesting. Who? I'm asking as I work with a lot of current racing drivers and we all know that's it's perfectly possible to lose such huge chunks of time on the wrong tyres, especially on those awful grooved tyres they used in F1.

Edited by Ahonen on Monday 8th December 12:37

Maty

1,234 posts

242 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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pits said:
spoke with ex race driverm 18 seconds a lap lost....due to tyres, dont think so, besides that i can rhink of more deserving drivers of the award, hes done nothing significant really
Cock!

Can't believe people still bring up this arguement. Go and try a go-kart with slicks on a wet track, then come back and comment - thats the closest us normal people will ever get to experiencing what Glock had to drive on them last few laps.



Dunit

645 posts

234 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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You only have to go back to spa to see how much time Alonso made up on his last lap when he changed to inters. Kimi lost a load of time on the grooved tyres even before his off. Looking at the last lap times Jarno was even slower than glock.

Gun

13,432 posts

247 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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pits said:
spoke with ex race driverm 18 seconds a lap lost....due to tyres, dont think so, besides that i can rhink of more deserving drivers of the award, hes done nothing significant really
Oh right, so a similar thing didn't happen in Spa then where Kimi couldn't even finish the last couple of laps in wet conditions on dry tyres rolleyes

Lewis fully deserves the award what with him being the youngest F1 World Champ in the history of the sport.

Mattygooner

5,304 posts

233 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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pits said:
spoke with ex race driverm 18 seconds a lap lost....due to tyres, dont think so, besides that i can rhink of more deserving drivers of the award, hes done nothing significant really
Was going to say how much of a cock you are but others have done a good job of doing so.

Please enlighten us with those more deserving!

gumsie

680 posts

238 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Gun said:
pits said:
spoke with ex race driverm 18 seconds a lap lost....due to tyres, dont think so, besides that i can rhink of more deserving drivers of the award, hes done nothing significant really
Oh right, so a similar thing didn't happen in Spa then where Kimi couldn't even finish the last couple of laps in wet conditions on dry tyres rolleyes

Lewis fully deserves the award what with him being the youngest F1 World Champ in the history of the sport.
He doesn't deserve the award for being the youngest F1 World Champ in the history of the sport and anybody who thinks he does is a fool. That kind of statement kills me, because we can only speculate what Senna or Schumacher may have done with the same opportunity, (cliche I know).
The following statement is a fact;
"Somebody has to be the youngest F1 World Champ in the history of the sport"
It's like that 'UK has the highest teen pregnancy rate' crap they quote all the time. So what, one country somewhere has to be above all the others. How high is the rate? Lets have all the info.
The degree to which has achieved what he did is what's important and is what will ultimately silence the detractors. We will see what he does when he's not in a car that's among the class of the field, remember how well the aforementioned drivers really did when they had the top cars taken away-Actually look at Senna in the McLaren ford and Schuey when he first moved to Ferrari they brought that car home in places that it should never have reached. If he really deserves that award it is for other reasons.


Edited by gumsie on Monday 8th December 13:39


Edited by gumsie on Monday 8th December 13:41

mk1fan

10,910 posts

254 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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MrKipling43 said:
What, you mean apart from winning the World Drivers' Championship in his second season, you total muppet?

(or have I missed a joke?)
Considering he's been nurtured by one of the top teams over the last ten years to do just that, then I don't see it as such an 'outstanding' acheivement when compared to those of other racers.

It's all about context.

Apache

39,731 posts

313 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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mk1fan said:
MrKipling43 said:
What, you mean apart from winning the World Drivers' Championship in his second season, you total muppet?

(or have I missed a joke?)
Considering he's been nurtured by one of the top teams over the last ten years to do just that, then I don't see it as such an 'outstanding' acheivement when compared to those of other racers.

It's all about context.
Absolutely, and you have to consider why he was nurtered from the cradle by Ron, it wasn't because of his snappy haircut and engaging smile

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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mk1fan said:
Considering he's been nurtured by one of the top teams over the last ten years to do just that, then I don't see it as such an 'outstanding' acheivement when compared to those of other racers.

It's all about context.
What a load of garbage.