Schumacher/Hill Australia crash 1994 photos
Discussion
jellison said:
Always thought - if only he had poottled back to the pits REALLY slowy and had the wishbone changed.
Or if not stuck one on Schumacher - that is what we need in Motorsport!
or if he had not made the bravest of brave lunges at an almost impossible overtaking place at the first sniff of a chance... cant decide whether this incident was Hill's lack of racecraft or pure racing instinct? should he have held off having come across a slower than usual schumacher or did he do the only sensible option and take a chance when it presented itself?...Or if not stuck one on Schumacher - that is what we need in Motorsport!
pablo said:
jellison said:
Always thought - if only he had poottled back to the pits REALLY slowy and had the wishbone changed.
Or if not stuck one on Schumacher - that is what we need in Motorsport!
or if he had not made the bravest of brave lunges at an almost impossible overtaking place at the first sniff of a chance... cant decide whether this incident was Hill's lack of racecraft or pure racing instinct? should he have held off having come across a slower than usual schumacher or did he do the only sensible option and take a chance when it presented itself?...Or if not stuck one on Schumacher - that is what we need in Motorsport!
jellison said:
zac510 said:
I was at the race and I'm fairly sure I remember Hill pootling back to the pits, only to retire. There must have been more damage.
Ah - could not remember if he made it back or just half way.A very cynical move by the German.....He tried it again against Villenueve and it didn't work....
If someone is apparently that talented, why do they need to 'cheat'....same thing goes with these so called talented footballers....diving and cheating all over the pitch, they surely cannot be that 'great' if they find the desire to cheat??
zac510 said:
I was sitting on Brabham Straight so I didn't exactly see him get to the pits, but that's about half way around the track with the damage.
Someone will chime in soon I'm sure
I bet it is on Utube - but can't hit that at work and not THAT interested.....!Someone will chime in soon I'm sure
Edited by zac510 on Thursday 11th December 10:24
zac510 said:
I was at the race and I'm fairly sure I remember Hill pootling back to the pits, only to retire. There must have been more damage.
IIRC it was just the snapped wishbone but it would have taken too long to replace it. Perhaps the mountings were also broken.Oh and F1 Racing drivers wouldn't be F1 racing drivers if they didn't go for every opportunity with a sniff of a chance. DH didn't realise that Schueys car had previously hit the wall and was damaged.
garycat said:
zac510 said:
I was at the race and I'm fairly sure I remember Hill pootling back to the pits, only to retire. There must have been more damage.
IIRC it was just the snapped wishbone but it would have taken too long to replace it. Perhaps the mountings were also broken.Oh and F1 Racing drivers wouldn't be F1 racing drivers if they didn't go for every opportunity with a sniff of a chance. DH didn't realise that Schueys car had previously hit the wall and was damaged.
Hill was on it...much quicker than the German....
Cynical move...he knew what he was doing.
forza whites said:
A very cynical move by the German.....He tried it again against Villenueve and it didn't work....
It's never popular on here, but I disagree with you.I think with Hill, MS was desperately trying to get back to cover the racing line to stop DH coming through. At the same time, DH saw a narrowing gap and threw his car into it - with hindsight, he should have waited and driven round the stricken Benetton, but at the time he saw it as an opportunity to win the championship, so I don't think we can really blame him. At best, it was 50:50.
With Villeneuve, MS deliberately drove into him - no argument there.
jamieboy said:
forza whites said:
A very cynical move by the German.....He tried it again against Villenueve and it didn't work....
It's never popular on here, but I disagree with you.I think with Hill, MS was desperately trying to get back to cover the racing line to stop DH coming through. At the same time, DH saw a narrowing gap and threw his car into it - with hindsight, he should have waited and driven round the stricken Benetton, but at the time he saw it as an opportunity to win the championship, so I don't think we can really blame him. At best, it was 50:50.
With Villeneuve, MS deliberately drove into him - no argument there.
Hill in this particular race was blinding! He was very very fast against Schumacher...
How anyone can say it was 50:50 is staggering!!
The wry grin on the Germans face a few minutes later all but confirmed it was deliberate...they say a picture paints a thousand words....and you dont need a Phd in body language to know exactly that his cynical move worked!
Hill was NOT desperate, if you look how quick he was all over that particular weekend.....During the race he was mega (for me one of his best) quick....
However top marks to the German for quick thinking! it worked and handed him the championship....
Age and time have mellowed my jingoism in relation to this incident.
I am of the view that Hill came accorss MS, not expecting to do so and, with everything on offer and at stake, and not knowing the German's race was run, went for the very slim gap.
It was a racer's decision. Hill had no idea that MS's car was FUBAR'd, all he knew was that it had slowed. Imagine what would have happened if it had done so as a result of just over cooking it a little, with no damage (which Hill might very likely have thought), and Hill hadn't made the move...
He was able to make it back to the pits, as stated by others, and it was damage to the mounting points which rulled out changing the bent suspension arm.
As far as MS's part in the incident was concerned i think it was a little bit of him being naughty and natural reaction. Think about when you've been in a similar situation when karting, we have all gone wide and been a touch forceful in defending our position whilst getting back up to speed I am sure!
It was not as blatant as some of MS's moves but certainly set the scene for the future and made 100% sure everyone out there knew they had to double think any move they considered pulling on him for the rest of his days in F1.
I am of the view that Hill came accorss MS, not expecting to do so and, with everything on offer and at stake, and not knowing the German's race was run, went for the very slim gap.
It was a racer's decision. Hill had no idea that MS's car was FUBAR'd, all he knew was that it had slowed. Imagine what would have happened if it had done so as a result of just over cooking it a little, with no damage (which Hill might very likely have thought), and Hill hadn't made the move...
He was able to make it back to the pits, as stated by others, and it was damage to the mounting points which rulled out changing the bent suspension arm.
As far as MS's part in the incident was concerned i think it was a little bit of him being naughty and natural reaction. Think about when you've been in a similar situation when karting, we have all gone wide and been a touch forceful in defending our position whilst getting back up to speed I am sure!
It was not as blatant as some of MS's moves but certainly set the scene for the future and made 100% sure everyone out there knew they had to double think any move they considered pulling on him for the rest of his days in F1.
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